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    Eric, have there been any further updates to the program in the last few weeks ?.

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    Eric, have there been any further updates to the program in the last few weeks ?.
    No there have not been any additional changes made in the last few weeks. I do not anticipate any further modifications going forward.

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cernjar View Post
    No there have not been any additional changes made in the last few weeks. I do not anticipate any further modifications going forward.

    Thanks,
    Eric

    Eric, lets hope you are completely wrong..........there had better be major changes in the "authorization" statement on the background check page of the website.

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    Bump for This Question

    This question was originally brought up on message 15 of the locked thread on January 20, 2016, and again on March 18 in this thread. We still don't have an answer.

    It's been almost three weeks since the web seminar on this topic.

    The web seminar had the question:
    "Is it true that American Checked does not do the actual background check, but forwards the actual information to another entity? Who does the actual check?"

    The answer to that question was:
    "I do not believe that is the case, correct?
    No. AmericanChecked does the background check.
    Correct.
    And I thought that was something that needed some clarification."


    The background authorization and information web page goes to 8f7.com

    The SSL security certificate for 8f7.com is owned by a company called BackChecked LLC.

    Who is BackChecked LLC?
    What is their relationship with AmericanChecked LLC?
    If as Rick Larsen says, AmericanChecked LLC is doing the check, why is our information going to a web site owned by BackChecked LLC?
    Is, as I suspect, AmericanChecked LLC just a reseller of BackChecked LLC services? If that's the case, then our information is being shared with a 3rd party company. Why is it taking so long to just say that?


    The answer to this question is not something addressed in a policy that needs lots of discussion. It's just a fact that we need to know about where our personal information is going.

    After almost four months, why don't we have an answer to this simple issue yet?
    Last edited by PaulDow; 04-04-2016 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulDow View Post
    This question was originally brought up on message 15 of the locked thread on January 20, 2016, and again on March 18 in this thread. We still don't have an answer.

    It's been almost three weeks since the web seminar on this topic.

    The web seminar had the question:
    "Is it true that American Checked does not do the actual background check, but forwards the actual information to another entity? Who does the actual check?"

    The answer to that question was:
    "I do not believe that is the case, correct?
    No. AmericanChecked does the background check.
    Correct.
    And I thought that was something that needed some clarification."


    The background authorization and information web page goes to 8f7.com

    The SSL security certificate for 8f7.com is owned by a company called BackChecked LLC.

    Who is BackChecked LLC?
    What is their relationship with AmericanChecked LLC?
    If as Rick Larsen says, AmericanChecked LLC is doing the check, why is our information going to a web site owned by BackChecked LLC?
    Is, as I suspect, AmericanChecked LLC just a reseller of BackChecked LLC services? If that's the case, then our information is being shared with a 3rd party company. Why is it taking so long to just say that?


    The answer to this question is not something addressed in a policy that needs lots of discussion. It's just a fact that we need to know about where our personal information is going.

    After almost four months, why don't we have an answer to this simple issue yet?
    This has been answered a few times, and I'm directly pulling the verbiage we have in our FAQ. If you have any questions over and above this, I'd encourage you to contact us directly.

    Thanks,
    Eric

    Who is the company doing the background check? Can I trust them?
    AmericanChecked http://americanchecked.com/ is a nationally accredited background check company who provides secure screening services to a variety of industries. The U.S. Forest Service, as well as colleges, public school systems, and businesses of every size utilize its services. EAA went through an exhaustive process to find the right vendor that would providing outstanding service while treating our volunteers’ data with the utmost security and sensitivity.

    How is my data protected once it’s submitted?

    Your data is never shared with any outside vendor at any time. The highest levels of security are also maintained at all levels. If you’re technically oriented, that includes: All data transmission, including XML traffic, is encrypted using SSL certificates issued and monitored with 24/7 security. Servers are protected with multi-level firewall technology and intrusion detection software. Vulnerability scans are conducted on a regular basis by a PCI Approved Scanning Vendor, housed in a SAS 70 Type II audited data center with high-definition cameras. EAA demanded the highest levels of security for any company with access to our volunteers’ information.

    Why is there an odd-looking URL address on the background check form’s web page?
    That is a specialized URL created by AmericanChecked to encrypt and protect your personal information when you log in. It is an extra step taken by this company to prevent anyone from scanning websites for such information.

    https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-...n-program-faqs



    Eric Cernjar, EAA # 1133654

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    ...and I'm directly pulling the verbiage we have in our FAQ
    I've stayed out of this, 'til now, since lots of folks have done fine with their questions, but this last post of Eric's needs some additions. Presumably anyone interested has read the FAQ, so a repetition, in and of itself, isn't much good. And apparently no one has been on the forum who has the authority to actually answer the question, rather than either weasel-wording around it or quoting something already published. Or perhaps they don't want us to know. The FAQ is still a bit ambiguous, after all, about the answer to Paul's question (below).

    I thought Paul's question was pretty straightforward, and could be answered "yes" or "no":
    Is, as I suspect, AmericanChecked LLC just a reseller of BackChecked LLC services? If that's the case, then our information is being shared with a 3rd party company. Why is it taking so long to just say that?

    Larry N.

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    I called Eric this morning to discuss the 8F7 issue. He called AmericanChecked, and the answer he got from them is that they purchased and use BackChecked software to conduct the check, so that's why their certificate is on the web page. They claim it adds a layer of obfuscation to the process to prevent the hacking of the data.

    It seems like an unusual way to handle the process to me, but it doesn't look to be a weak spot. I know my bank, stock broker, and even EAA have web sites where the domain names match the SSL certificate owners. That's the purpose of SSL certificates; to verify what we see on the screen belongs to the company we think it does.

    So while I don't agree with what they're doing since it doesn't give the user the confidence that they're dealing with who they think they are, I guess it's not harmful as far as the threat of potentially stolen data.

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    [QUOTE=Janine Diana;54466]Every state has different criteria on what they include. Any convictions reverses or expunged do not show up.
    No data is kept on file at HQ with a few exceptions.
    I would suggest you call ahead of time as not everyone in the HR department has access.
    This is documented in the disclosure notification when completing the background check. This is required by law.
    [/QUOTE


    I, among many others, would be very interested in knowing the progress you are making, in having the wording in the following "Authorization" statement, changed from the current "data mining" procedure, into a common sense data gathering authorization.

    Data to be gathered - "public record information such as, but not limited to: my driving record, judgments, bankruptcy proceedings, evictions, criminal records, etc., from federal, state, and other agencies that maintain such records.

    "Authorization
    I hereby authorize procurement of consumer report(s) and investigative consumer report(s) by Company. If hired (or contracted), this authorization shall remain on file and shall serve as ongoing authorization for Company to procure such reports at any time during my employment, contract, or volunteer period. I authorize without reservation, any person, business or agency contacted by the consumer reporting agency to furnish the above-mentioned information."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cernjar View Post
    This has been answered a few times, and I'm directly pulling the verbiage we have in our FAQ. If you have any questions over and above this, I'd encourage you to contact us directly.

    Thanks,
    Eric



    Wouldnt it be better to address questions here where everyone can see the answers? The lack of information during this rollout is what has caused 90% of the pushback you are experiencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulDow View Post
    I called Eric this morning to discuss the 8F7 issue. He called AmericanChecked, and the answer he got from them is that they purchased and use BackChecked software to conduct the check, so that's why their certificate is on the web page. They claim it adds a layer of obfuscation to the process to prevent the hacking of the data.

    It seems like an unusual way to handle the process to me, but it doesn't look to be a weak spot. I know my bank, stock broker, and even EAA have web sites where the domain names match the SSL certificate owners. That's the purpose of SSL certificates; to verify what we see on the screen belongs to the company we think it does.

    So while I don't agree with what they're doing since it doesn't give the user the confidence that they're dealing with who they think they are, I guess it's not harmful as far as the threat of potentially stolen data.
    Yep and if the EAA had come clean when I first pointed this out back at the beginning of the other thread, I'd have felt a lot better about it. However, they chose to stonewall the answer with "we're the EAA you can trust us, yeah sure" and ignore the issues and an bunch of flacks chose to belittle me over the privacy concerns.

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