NOTAM'S UP, Who came up with this drivel?

[keen9]

Is the ATIS being rebroadcast from a station further southwest so we can actually get it in clear before we get close to the transitions?

The real problem will be all the people who just do what they've always done unfortunately.

[Kyle Boatright]

The additional transitions are only for times when the field is saturated. For normal conditions, the regular arrival is still used.

But when the new transitions do go into effect - gonna be a doozy.

This is all to eliminate the risk inherent in the crowded holds over the lakes.

[Mayhemxpc]

This is all to eliminate the risk inherent in the crowded holds over the lakes.

Well that's a new take on social distancing!

[Eric Page]

My interpretation of the new procedures is that each of the points will be used, in increasing distance from KOSH, as the level of traffic increases. I don't think they want aircraft to pick one of the points and try to merge into an existing line of traffic. The NOTAM does a very poor job explaining specifically how the new points will be used, but that's my take. If I'm wrong, well, like I said, it ain't clear!

[Auburntsts]

My interpretation of the new procedures is that each of the points will be used, in increasing distance from KOSH, as the level of traffic increases. I don't think they want aircraft to pick one of the points and try to merge into an existing line of traffic. The NOTAM does a very poor job explaining specifically how the new points will be used, but that's my take. If I'm wrong, well, like I said, it ain't clear!

Agree it’s not clear at all, but my understanding after reading through the NOTAM a few times is the transition point in use will be included in the arrival ATIS.

[Kyle Boatright]

Agree it’s not clear at all, but my understanding after reading through the NOTAM a few times is the transition point in use will be included in the arrival ATIS.

Yes. But the issue with the arrival ATIS has always been that the transmitter isn't strong enough to push the signal more than 20 or so miles. So it is very possible that you fly a lot of extra miles trying to determine the transition point in use at the moment.

And lord help the people who have to fly in trail for 50 miles from the most distant transition point. The accordion effect is very real, whether in ground or airborne traffic. Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suugn-p5C1M

[Auburntsts]

Yes. But the issue with the arrival ATIS has always been that the transmitter isn't strong enough to push the signal more than 20 or so miles. So it is very possible that you fly a lot of extra miles trying to determine the transition point in use at the moment.

And lord help the people who have to fly in trail for 50 miles from the most distant transition point. The accordion effect is very real, whether in ground or airborne traffic. Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suugn-p5C1M

I’m not disagreeing with you or trying to justify this thing, just trying to interpret it. As you know, it’s crap like this that has driven me to opt for the IFR arrival to avoid all of the nonsense.