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    New procedures in Homebuilt Camping

    Fellow EAAers,

    Now that we've ticked over into July, it's time to start thinking about Oshkosh in earnest. Actually, to be accurate, many of us never really stop thinking about it, but the pace quickens as it gets closer. For those of us who volunteer on the Homebuilt Parking crew, this is the time when we really get down to business of making our little piece of the show happen.

    Over the years, your faithful parking volunteers have heard some variation of the following questions roughly ninety jillion times:

    1. "How early do I have to get here to get a good parking spot?" or its close cousin:

    2. I got here early on purpose! Why do I have to park so far away from the showers/so close to the showers/ way in the back/ way in the front/ etc etc etc?

    The answer to the first question is simple, if a bit sarcastic- there are no good parking spots at Oshkosh. Really. Because good parking spots are very much in the eye of the beholder, and we have no way to know what is going on in your eye. Some folks like being right next to the showers/ bathrooms, others can't stand the noise. Some like being right up front close to the crowds, some want to be as far in the back as they can for the peace and quiet.

    Note- this is based on my experience in the homebuilt area, but based on conversations with fellow volunteers in Antique/ Classic and N40, the concepts are universal.

    Historically, we have filled Homebuilt Camping (HBC) starting in the back (far west end) and working east. That doesn't make a lot of sense to some, until you consider this- the non-camping RV parking area (called Area 51 or the Sea of RVs) is to the area just east of HBC. And, as some of you know, we start parking in this area on the far east end (just west of the homebuilt commercial display tents) and work west. HBC starts west and works east, parking starts east and works west, and we meet in the middle, somewhere around the 50 yard line. We can usually guess with some accuracy where the border will end up, but it is not an exact science and each year we make some adjustments to the border as needed. This would not be possible if we started at the border and worked out in each direction.

    Make sense? Good, because now we are going to change it up. Based on the feedback we've gotten over the years since HBC came into existence, and with the additional real estate we've gained by taking over the former red auto parking lot, we are going to, for the first time, make an effort to get inside the eye of the beholder and divine the ideal parking spot for each arriving airplane. How will we do this? The same way everything else is communicated at Oshkosh- visually.

    The procedure for arriving pilots is the same. Once on the ground, show your HBC sign to each and every orange vest you encounter. Once you arrive at the entrance to HBC, you will be greeted by something new- an orange vested volunteer with a sign of their own, which will look something like this:

    WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO CAMP?

    #1. UP FRONT - LESS WALKING

    #2. OUT BACK – LESS TRAFFIC

    #3. CLOSE TO FACILITIES

    The options are numbered. After considering the options, pick one and show the appropriate number of fingers to the flagman, who will then direct you appropriately. Rocking your wings to acknowledge is not necessary. (Note: if your choice is option #1, please use the correct finger)

    Keep in mind that this will be time and space permitting. Depending on when you get there, there may or may not be anything left in your chosen area. We will get you as close to your choice as we can, but as usual, if you want a good seat to the show, get there early.

    As this is the first year of a new procedure, there is bound to be a learning curve, so bear with us. As always we welcome your feedback, as we are always looking for ways to improve the experience. I look forward to seeing many of you at the big show in a few weeks. As always, fly safe and READ THE NOTAM!
    Last edited by Jeff Point; 06-30-2014 at 07:23 PM.
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    Does this affect the HBP? I will be bringing my Thatcher CX4 up and wont be camping? Where can I expect to be placed. Planning on coming in Sunday morning around 10-1030

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    It will not affect the non-camping homebuilts. Those will still be parked together by type (as best we can) in their respective areas. Your CX4 will likely be on the flight line, probably just north of HBHQ.
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    Jeff,

    Thanks for all the work you and your team do for us! See you in about three weeks.

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    Great idea! Simple and elegant. I assume that if an area is full, that option will be blocked out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkhart7AC View Post
    Great idea! Simple and elegant. I assume that if an area is full, that option will be blocked out?
    Yes. When this will happen is anyone's guess, but by late Sunday we'll be near if not at that point. Monday for sure and by Tuesday, you're lucky to be on the field.
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    Thread bump before Oshkosh. Look forward to seeing everyone in a few days. Fly safe and READ THE NOTAM!!!
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    Update for 2015

    This thread details a new procedure for parking in the Homebuilt Camping area at Oshkosh. We started this last year (2014) and it was a pretty big success, so we plan to do it again in 2015. If you are not familiar or did not fly in last year, go back to the beginning of this thread and read it. Go ahead, we'll wait for you here.

    While we plan to do this again, 2015 will be slightly different. EAA has decided to move the HBC facilities (shower, coffee building and tent) to a different location at the west end of the HBC area. The below picture explains it.





    The current location is shown in red, and the blue area is where they will be moving to. This will naturally have an effect on the "1,2,3" system of parking, since what used to be "in the back" is now actually much closer to the facilities.

    After much internal deliberation, we decided to keep it simple and use the same numbering system as last year. We will do our best to get everyone to the type of spot that they desire, keeping in mind that there will come a time when the best spot available might not be your first choice. Last year that occurred around noon on Sunday.

    Also, keep in mind the new best-kept secret in HBC, which is the new North 40 shower house. For those folks in the far north end of HBC, that shower house is quite a bit closer than the HBC showers, and nicer to boot! That won't help you for the morning walk to coffee, but it is some consolation. Also, EAA reportedly has a new vendor for the shower trailers, so the old one that has served HBC for years will be replaced, and there will be two of them this year.

    I look forward to seeing everyone in a few weeks. As always we welcome your feedback. Fly safe and READ THE NOTAM!
    Jeff Point
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