91.307 Ambiguity

[jimklick]

[QUOTE=Byron J. Covey;52427]Just an FYI. There are other definitions within the FARs for "aerobatics." I think that the may be three, but it has been a long time since I looked. One such example is here:

§91.303 Aerobatic flight.

No person may operate an aircraft in aerobatic flight—
(a) Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement;
(b) Over an open air assembly of persons;
(c) Within the lateral boundaries of the surface areas of Class B, Class C, Class D, or Class E airspace designated for an airport;
(d) Within 4 nautical miles of the center line of any Federal airway;
(e) Below an altitude of 1,500 feet above the surface; or
(f) When flight visibility is less than 3 statute miles.
For the purposes of this section, aerobatic flight means an intentional maneuver involving an abrupt change in an aircraft's attitude, an abnormal attitude, or abnormal acceleration, not necessary for normal flight.

Byron,
i was the proud owner of the first certificated Pitts S1S for 18 years.
one of the questions I enjoyed asking FAA types was about a placard in the airplane, placed appropriately
just above the throttle.
it stated : "This airplane must be operated as an acrobatic category airplane".
OK, I would ask, what is "normal flight" for an acrobatic category airplane?
if I don't abruptly use the controls, fly in abnormal attitudes, etc. etc. am I in violation because I am not operating as an acrobatic category airplane?
they would invariably ask for a copy of the placard, and I had one FAA guy at Oshkosh photograph the
the placard in the airplane, and tell me it just means I had a poorly written placard.
i asked if there was any way they could violate me for operating as an "acrobatic category airplane"
other than using the catch all "careless and reckless?
i had a lot of fun messing with them. One said he was taking it to OK City to use in the training of
new Inapectors as a "gotcha" question.
N9JT is still flying with her happy new owner. I hated to part with her, but age got in my way.

Jim Klick

[Byron J. Covey]

Byron,
i was the proud owner of the first certificated Pitts S1S for 18 years.
one of the questions I enjoyed asking FAA types was about a placard in the airplane, placed appropriately
just above the throttle.
it stated : "This airplane must be operated as an acrobatic category airplane".
OK, I would ask, what is "normal flight" for an acrobatic category airplane?
if I don't abruptly use the controls, fly in abnormal attitudes, etc. etc. am I in violation because I am not operating as an acrobatic category airplane?
they would invariably ask for a copy of the placard, and I had one FAA guy at Oshkosh photograph the
the placard in the airplane, and tell me it just means I had a poorly written placard.
i asked if there was any way they could violate me for operating as an "acrobatic category airplane"
other than using the catch all "careless and reckless?
i had a lot of fun messing with them. One said he was taking it to OK City to use in the training of
new Inapectors as a "gotcha" question.
N9JT is still flying with her happy new owner. I hated to part with her, but age got in my way.

Jim Klick

Interesting. I haven't flown a Type Certificated S-1S. Do they all have that, or was it just yours?


BJC

[RetroAcro]

Interesting. I haven't flown a Type Certificated S-1S. Do they all have that, or was it just yours?


BJC

Hey Byron - the placard was a joke. If they came out of Afton that way, mine would be non-conforming and illegal. :-) Eric

[rwanttaja]

I like the placard that says, "Straight and level flight prohibited."

Ron Wanttaja

[Byron J. Covey]

Hey Byron - the placard was a joke. If they came out of Afton that way, mine would be non-conforming and illegal. :-) Eric

Eric:

Yeah, that is what I thought, but I've never met JK, so I thought that I would play it straight.

How are things up there? You still at Raleigh East? How is the gang at 1114?


BJC