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    Pilot's Bill of Rights 2

    Still awaiting the actual PBOR2 text, but here is some detail from Senator Inhofe's website

    Pilot's Bill of Rights 2
    Section by Section
    Section 1 Title. Pilot's Bill of Rights 2

    Section 2 Expands FAA's 3rd class medical exemption for light sport aircraft to cover most small GA aircraft. Same text as S. 2103, but prohibits enforcement of violations if FAA has not complied with these provisions within 180 days of enactment. (Supposedly this includes IFR too)

    Section 3 Reigns in Customs and Border Patrol stops and searches of GA by requiring CBP to follow general law enforce ment standards when exercising its powers.

    Section 4 Provides local airport offices to manage the use of private hangars at airports. Current law gives federal officials and Washington the ability to dictate what does and doesn?t happen inside a hangar; this section changes that problem.

    Section 5 Opens a dialogue on language that will make it easier to install new, safety enhancing equipment on existing aircraft without going through a lengthy, expensive certification process.

    Section 6 Expanding the Pilot's Bill of Rights

    Subsections a-b: Explicitly states that pilots facing an investigation by FAA can appeal the issue directly to a federal district court for a de novo trial. This provision of the original Pilot?s Bill of Rights has not operated as intended.

    Subsection c: Expands the protections of the Pilot's Bill of Rights to other certificate holders in the aviation community, such as charter operators or repair stations.

    Subsection d: Requires FAA to provide notification to an individual once they become subject to an FAA investigation; if FAA does not provide notification, they cannot press charges.

    Subsection e: Limits scope of FAA's document requests of certificate holders to the pertinent issues being investigated.

    Subsection f: Reinstates FAA's expungement policy, preventing the agency from retaining records of enforcement against an airmen certificate holder after retaining it for 5 years. Also prohibits the retention of records beyond 90 days if the agency does not take enforcement action. Further prevents the FAA from publicizing pending enforcement actions against a covered certificate holder.

    Section 7 Prohibit enforcement of NOTAM violations if FAA has not finished its NOTAM improvement program by the end of the year.

    Section 8 Requires contract towers and other outsourced FAA programs to be subject to FOIA requests.

    Section 9 Provides civil liability protection to aviation medical examiners and other FAA reps, treating them as government employees as the proscribed duties are carried out.

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    http://govt.eaa.org/17422/support-pilots-bill-rights-2/

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    Looks like it hasn't made its way from the Clerk's office to the website yet, but a pre-filing version (final text, sans bill number) is attached. Check back next week on Congress.gov for the "official" version. The bill numbers are S. 571 and H.R. 1062.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Charpentier View Post
    Looks like it hasn't made its way from the Clerk's office to the website yet, but a pre-filing version (final text, sans bill number) is attached. Check back next week on Congress.gov for the "official" version. The bill numbers are S. 571 and H.R. 1062.

    Tom C, Sean and EAA- thank you!

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    It appears the Legislators have gotten busy. There are at least four Bills introduced to reform the 3rd class Medical.


    There is a pair of Bills called PBOR2 (S.571 and H.R. 1062) introduced by Sen. Inhofe and Rep. Graves.


    And there is what appears to be a pair of Bills (S.573 and H.R. 1086) introduced by Sen. Inhofe and Rep. Rokita whose titles are

    To direct the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration to issue or revise regulations with respect to the medical certification of certain small aircraft pilots, and for other purposes.


    In checking on the existing proposed rule, it has still not left DOT for OMB although the notoriously inaccurate DOT forecast said it was supposed to go over on 27 Feb. My cynical prediction is that when DOT releases their March Rulemaking status, it will kick the can a month and say that it will be scheduled to go over on 27 March.

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    I have just heard a presentation by an informed source and as for as the request to use a drivers license as well as self certifying in place of a 3rd class medical, the info was that the FAA was proceeding with the proposal, but that it was being blocked or resisted by the new head of the Department of Transportation. I don't have more details, but I think the DOT man or person is a new appointee, not sure about that or their background or biases.

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    Tom, Assuming the proposed PBOR-2 is enacted, what is EAA's position concerning how new or revised regulations implementing Sec. 2 should affect current Sport Pilots? I would suggest that any SEL Sport Pilot should also have at least daylight VFR privileges in larger, faster "covered aircraft", as defined, without further qualification (and the option to pursue night and IFR qualification if desired.) For daylight VFR activity, there is no relevant difference between required training and PTS for SEL Sport Pilots and PPL's even now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rshannon View Post
    Tom, Assuming the proposed PBOR-2 is enacted, what is EAA's position concerning how new or revised regulations implementing Sec. 2 should affect current Sport Pilots? I would suggest that any SEL Sport Pilot should also have at least daylight VFR privileges in larger, faster "covered aircraft", as defined, without further qualification (and the option to pursue night and IFR qualification if desired.) For daylight VFR activity, there is no relevant difference between required training and PTS for SEL Sport Pilots and PPL's even now.

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    Ron- are you suggesting that Aircraft Sport Piots have a path to Certificated Aircraft for Day, VFR, Sport pilot WX flying without having to jump the hurdle of a Private pilot examination? Interesting thought!

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    Yes. Other than lack of a medical, insofar as relevant to daylight VFR, the training and PTS for SEL sport pilots and PPL's are virtually identical, even now. (The differences in minimum dual hours are almost entirely due to non-daylight VFR activity. Sport pilots are also required to get controlled airspace operations training and endorsements separately -- for which there is no specific minimum time requirement -- but insofar as might be relevant to daylight VFR, that's it.) If PPL's are going to be allowed to fly heavier-faster-than-LSA aircraft (whether certificated or experimental) in daylight VFR without a medical, there's no reason SEL sport pilots should not also be able to do so. Put another way, the only reason SEL sport pilots have not been allowed to fly heavier-faster-than-LSA (etc.) aircraft in daylight VFR in the first place, has been lack of a medical cert. For daylight VFR activity there is, literally, no other meaningful distinction in the training and testing a licensed SEL sport pilot has already completed, to the same performance standards.

    It's interesting you pose the question of a further testing "hurdle" for sport pilots, as if there might be some need or justification. Why should sport pilots have to be tested again on turns around a point, short field takeoff's, etc., etc.? If PPL's were required to pass another test on all that stuff they did already, just to fly without a medical, they'd raise holy hell, and rightly so. Why should that be different for sport pilots? It's worth noting that, even now, sport pilots who wish to get a PPL receive credit for both time and subject matter of prior training. Should they really have to be tested on all that again just to fly bigger airplanes in daylight VFR? Why? Both PPL and sport pilot candidates can train in a J-3 Cub. The PPL can go on to fly a C-182 with a constant speed prop in daylight VFR without further regulatory requirements, yet the sport pilot cannot. If and when a medical is no longer a legitimate requirement for PPL's to fly those aircraft in daylight VFR, why should SEL sport pilots still be excluded from doing the same?

    Similarly, if PPL's will be allowed to earn and fly with an IFR rating without a medical, there's no reason SEL sport pilots shouldn't also be allowed to do so, by getting the same additional training and testing for an IFR rating as is now required of PPL's.

    Bottom line is that absent the requirement of a medical, convergence between the two classes of licenses will soon be upon us -- as it should be. After all, were it not for the overwheming success of the sport pilot program, today's medical reform movement for PPL's might not even be on the table.
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