I'll tell you what it does in my case. I still have to work Monday morning. They could land the space shuttle on Sunday, I'd still have to split before the airshow.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingRon
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I'll tell you what it does in my case. I still have to work Monday morning. They could land the space shuttle on Sunday, I'd still have to split before the airshow.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingRon
Are the the jet acts flying all three days of the weekend? What time?
I think if Wed is going to be Vietnam day, then one day ought to be primarily about D Day since this is the 70th anniversary of the day when finally the Allies got back on the continent of Europe after 4 long years. It certainly wasn't the end of the war, there was a lot of fighting and a lot ot dying left in Europe as the Nazis ground forces fought hard. But Churchill said after the narrow RAF victory in the summer/fall of 1940, "it is not the end, maybe not even the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning". June 6th probably was the beginning of the end, the time after which we were on the course to victory, not withstanding the last German effort at Battle of the Bulge.
Fri, would be a good day to honor D Day and its vets, and as a country it is a heck of a lot more worth remembering than trying to make it seem like the Vietnam War was anything other than the worst thing our country has done since slavery and the Indian wars.
There weren't any jet acts over Normandy in 1944, unless it might have been a Me 262. I'd like to see something like a C-47, maybe one that really is a Normandy vet, fly over and drop parachute troops. I know there are no flying troop gliders anymore, but having one of them come into show center would be great and meaningful.
The jets can fly on the weekend, and the EAA fllight line could be kept as it has been for EAA till then. As for as my vote would go, EAA could give the entire day of Sunday to jet acts.
I suspect if EAA took a simple poll of members, ie How many days do you want jets to fly and how many days is it worth altering the flight lines and crowded areas like Vintage for them? EAA would probably win that vote, who knows for sure? But EAA doesn't take such polling, all the decisions come from the top down so that it gives the impression that the members are the secondary part of EAA, as it were ,just like employees.
Another part of the poll which EAA doesn't take and won't take could be to see how much of the week and show should be devoted to commercial acro acts. There are a few that I like to see, especially the first few times, but many members have written that this has been overdone in the past. Some of the acts have an announcer screaming at you about how wonderful the act is and it is so overdone it would embarrass a used car dealer.
The current rumor is Friday and Saturday 2:30 or so and Sunday at 1.
Maybe they can get the Liberty guys to do something commemorative when they jump en-mass.
5pm Fri & Sat. 3pm Sun. According to EAA.org, Wed June 11. Guess you must have missed it.
The Thunderbirds will perform what they describe as a “practice show” – basically, a full dress rehearsal for the weekend – at 5 p.m. on Friday, August 1. This comes at the end of the regular afternoon air show, which features the full World War II warbird extravaganza, and prior to the return of the Old Glory Honor Flight from Washington, D.C., that is part of AirVenture’s annual “Salute to Veterans” activities.On Saturday, August 2, the Thunderbirds will again fly at 5 p.m. as the final performers in the afternoon air show, which once again features World War II aircraft and full pyrotechnics. The aerial excitement on that day will continue in the evening with the second of the two night air shows during AirVenture week. The Thunderbirds will wrap up their inaugural Oshkosh performances at 3 p.m. on Sunday, August 3, as the closing act in AirVenture’s final-day air show.
That all being said, their still going to make everyone move back probably BEFORE the show starts at 2-3:00. Now, like all you other "Oshkosh Old Timers", you know as well as I do that Friday and Saturday are usually really packed because of the warbird show and recently the night show too. Can you picture bringing in all the extra people that will pay to get in to see the Thunderbirds. And pack them into an even smaller area now? I'm sure it'll be a learning experience for the staff as well. I for one am looking forward to seeing them fly. But, I hope that it's not going to be an every year thing. I think their doing their best trying to make up for not having any military present last year. I'm going to do my best to reserve judgement until after the convention.
Most of the crowed was within thirty feet of the "burn line." It was pretty sparse once you got a few planes back so I'm hoping that it won't be too congested if it just moves back 100'. Back when Airventure was more crowded than it is now the burn line was 30 feet closer to the taxiway than it is now.
and of course in the homebuilt parking, 100 ft is the whole of the current parking area, its pretty thin up there between the golden Arch and the warbirds.
Id also rather see the Thundebirds than the jet truck, or replace some of the aerobatics, and only if they didn't disrupt the rest of the show. If they arrived and displayed at the end of the show on Saturday and then did the Sunday show and there wernt any crowd restrictions, then I wouldn't mind. But closing such a large area of the flightline for 3 days is a disaster.
Id rather see more warbirds flying and more "interesting" vintage aircraft fly-bys, like we had the two Howard 500s last year, Ju52, Ford/Stinson Trimotors, Golden age of air racing or Reno racers, the likes of the DC7, or Save-a-Connie if they get it in the air again. The unique stuff that Oshkosh attracts, not these jet teams that you can see somewhere every weekend of the summer.
I hear they're also losing half of the "aviators club" or whatever they call the reserved seating.
It's actually about half of the area, east-west. The displaced show line will be right on the speaker pole line, if that helps for a reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel hitchman
Also- parking will not be displaced; aircraft will still be able to park in the entire area and folks will be able to look at them, except for the limited times of the T-birds flight when access will be restricted.