North 40 Showers

[John Telfeyan]

KOSH 061453Z 19003KT 10SM CLR M20/M23 A3058 RMK AO2 SLP393 T12001228 53008

For some reason during weather like this I can't stop thinking about the shower houses at the North 40. I suppose that it will warm up before I get there in July.
Stay warm everyone.
:)

[rwanttaja]

KOSH 061453Z 19003KT 10SM CLR M20/M23 A3058 RMK AO2 SLP393 T12001228 53008

For some reason during weather like this I can't stop thinking about the shower houses at the North 40. I suppose that it will warm up before I get there in July.
Stay warm everyone.
:)
At least they've got the toilet seats stacked up and stored in the ice houses! :-)

Ron Wanttaja

[Kyle Boatright]

KOSH 061453Z 19003KT 10SM CLR M20/M23 A3058 RMK AO2 SLP393 T12001228 53008

For some reason during weather like this I can't stop thinking about the shower houses at the North 40. I suppose that it will warm up before I get there in July.
Stay warm everyone.
:)

There's no waiting in line at this time of year...

[Bill Berson]

Can you decode that weather report.
I get weather from the news.

[rwanttaja]

Can you decode that weather report.

Here you go... it's a much more modern format than the one Kyle posted.

75798372 48544952535190 49574848517584 49488377 677682 77504847775051 6551485356 827775 657950 837680515751 844950484849505056 5351484856

Ron "Anyone read ASCII?" Wanttaja

[sr2500]

I work in homebuilt camping and last year arrived on the Wed prior. Since our trailer wasn't hooked up yet, we used the North Shower House. Was great -- no one else there! In fact, my co-worker and I had a couple really good shower fights -- just point the nozzle skyward toward the other and pull the trigger! Oh to be young again!
Jerry

[robert l]

At least they've got the toilet seats stacked up and stored in the ice houses! :-)

Ron Wanttaja
I have a heated toilet seat at home, it sure is nice this time of year !
Bob

[CarlOrton]

Ron "Anyone read ASCII?" Wanttaja

I had to stop and think for a moment there, Ron; I was thinking those are some weirdo ascii characters you're throwing out there, but then remembered I was trying to translate hex.

[Bill Berson]

I wasn't joking about decoding that. I can't read it and won't try.
Duane Cole chastised the FAA decades ago for still using ancient teletype in an age of free electrons.
And we wonder why the student pilots drop out.

[DaleB]

Oshkosh, WI airport (KOSH)
2:53 PM UTC on the 6th
Winds 190 at 3 knots
10 mile visibility
Clear below 12,000 MSL
-20 C (-4 F), dewpoint -23 C (-9 F)
Altimeter 30.58

[rwanttaja]

I had to stop and think for a moment there, Ron; I was thinking those are some weirdo ascii characters you're throwing out there, but then remembered I was trying to translate hex.

It's kind of bastard ASCII in any case...instead of converting the spaces to ASCII, I left them as spaces.

And I agree with Bill; maintaining old technology like that in this day and age is idiotic.

Ron "We can't have archaic and read it too" Wanttaja

[Floatsflyer]

Oshkosh, WI airport (KOSH)
2:53 PM UTC on the 6th
Winds 190 at 3 knots
10 mile visibility
Clear below 12,000 MSL
-20 C (-4 F), dewpoint -23 C (-9 F)
Altimeter 30.58

I'm going to assume you're correct and I'm impressed because quite frankly I've forgotten a lot of meteorological nomenclature. When I look up the NavCanada weather website, I'm given a choice to receive the Metar and TAF info in "English" or standard nomenclature. I've become quite spoiled, I always choose English.

[DaleB]

I always opt for the plain English version when available, but it ain't exactly rocket surgery if the weather isn't going to hell.



KMLE 082135Z AUTO 21006KT 10SM CLR 09/01 A3007 RMK AO2 T00920011





Location, date/time, winds, visibility, ceiling, temp/dewpoint, altimeter. In this case AUTO means a fully automated report... there's a bunch more crud that can be in there. I have to look it up sometimes. I think using cryptic abbreviations that need explanation is a little silly too. On the other hand, I don't want a full paragraph narrative that I have to read through.

If you think METARs are cryptic, try the TAF. Sheesh.

TAF
KOKC 051130Z 051212 14008KT 5SM BR BKN030 TEMPO 1316 1 1/2SM BR
FM1600 16010KT P6SM SKC
BECMG 2224 20013G20KT 4SM SHRA OVC020 PROB40 0006 2SM TSRA OVC008CB
BECMG 0608 21015KT P6SM NSW SCT040 =

[Bill Berson]

Oshkosh, WI airport (KOSH)
2:53 PM UTC on the 6th
Winds 190 at 3 knots
10 mile visibility
Clear below 12,000 MSL
-20 C (-4 F), dewpoint -23 C (-9 F)
Altimeter 30.58

So an occasional Sport Pilot is supposed to memorize that M20/M23 is temperature/dew point?
That is just nonsense.
On top of that we need to convert from C to F (if we even know it is C). Crazy.

[DaleB]

The weather cares not what flavor of pilot certificate you have, nor what you're flying. So... Sport Pilot or no, you need to understand the weather report. The temp/dewpoint are always in the same format and same place. There's no need to convert C to F, any more than you need to convert between knots and MPH if your panel is set up for one or the other.

If you don't like expending the mental energy required to get the information you need from METARs, listen to the AWOS/ATIS/ASOS weather broadcast or get it from the Internet. It's assumed that a pilot will be smart enough and have the training (which EVERY pilot has to receive to pass the written exam) to be able to get by.

It's not that tough to figure this stuff out.

[Floatsflyer]

So an occasional Sport Pilot is supposed to memorize that M20/M23 is temperature/dew point?
That is just nonsense.

No, no one needs to memorize that. And no, it's not nonsense. All any type licensed pilot needs to know is that you want to see an actual difference in degrees between temp and dew point in a Wx report. And if there isn't, you will not go flying.

[Bill Berson]

Are you saying any licensed pilot doesn't need to memorize what the M code is for?

[Floatsflyer]

Once more, no memorization of nomenclature or sequence of info required any longer. As I and DaleB said, you can receive Wx in plain English.