Showplane Parking

[Bill Berson]

Is there a daily fee for Showplane Parking (Ultralights, Homebuilts)? Or is parking included with an owners wristband?
All I could find on the website is camping rates ($27/day)

edit: I searched and found this thread that said no charge for parking any aircraft.
http://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?5129-VAC-First-Timer&highlight=Showplane+parking

[Jeff Point]

Looks like you answered your own question. There is no fee in any of the aircraft parking areas. However, to park in any of the aircraft camping areas (North 40, Homebuilt, Vintage) one must pay the camping rate.

No tent= no $.

[Bill Berson]

Thanks Jeff.
Another question is: can a Homebuilt be brought in by trailer and assembled at or moved to Homebuilt parking?

[Jeff Point]

Sure. I believe that doing so makes it ineligible for judging (must fly in) but other than that you'd be OK.

You'd be wise to arrive good and early (before Sunday) to be sure you'll be able to get your vehicle/ trailer onto the grounds.

[FlyingRon]

I can't vouch for the other areas, but in Vintage, you only pay for camping if you CAMP. We don't have dedicated camping areas. We had dedicated parking areas (where no camping is permitted) but those are being phased out (now I believe they are limited only to the pretty airplane area: past grand champions and special displays in the northernmost section of the vintage area). You don't even need a wristband to park, it's free. You could fly in and walk out the gates and nobody would care.

As for trailering in, I can't say that I've seen it in vintage, but they do it in UL all the time. You can't park/drive your truck/trailer in the grounds starting the Sunday before, but provisions for you to come in, unload, and get your vehicle out are available. I'd still recommend doing that early if you're planning on doing it.

[Bill Berson]

I have an Avid Amphibian with folding wings. The plan is to trailer it in, since flying 2000 miles at 70 is inconvenient.
Seems EAA would accommodate trailered aircraft. Especially after sponsoring and promoting folding wings with the EAA Design contest in the 60’s.
But oh well. I guess I can arrive before Sunday hopefully. Thanks for the heads up.
Glad I checked first.

p.s. I already know the Seaplane Base has no facility for trailering in.

[FlyingRon]

I don't know if you want to park in homebuilts or not, but if you want to park in the Seaplane area I can ask the chairs in Vintage about getting you into those rows. Of course, you could trailer to Neenah and takeoff and fly over to OSH (it's about seven miles).

[Bill Berson]

Ron, I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying Vintage controls the Seaplane parking?

I considered another airport. But then I would need to find and pay for trailer and car parking and load everything into the airplane for the week.

[FlyingRon]

Exactly. If you show up at the main airport at Oshkosh holding a SP sign, you will be directed to Vintage. Vintage will park you in the amphib area down south of the end of the ultralight area. Vintage still handles that.

[BrianS]

Exactly. If you show up at the main airport at Oshkosh holding a SP sign, you will be directed to Vintage. Vintage will park you in the amphib area down south of the end of the ultralight area. Vintage still handles that.

@BillB There is seaplane parking on the field, and there is the seaplane base.

I'm pretty sure FlyingRon is talking about parking on the field @ KOSH, and I suspect BillB is confusing those comments with the seaplane base options.

[Bill Berson]

Brian, I did some reasearch at Airventure 2017. The Seaplane Base on Lake Winnebago has no land access for any trailer arrival. The water based seaplanes must fly in and land on the water and remain parked on a buoy in the middle of the harbor.

Instead, my choice I think would be to trailer to the Seaplane row off runway 36 threshold. Probably assemble the aircraft at Ultralights and push it to the Seaplane row or the Brown Arch Homebuilt area or leave it at Ultralights/Light Sport.
Lots of options.

The aircraft kit is not completed yet, so not likely for 2018.

[FlyingRon]

Pushing it around to the SP row is going to be hard. Even the tram road is unpaved at that point. If he really wants to do that, I'll see if we can't find a better way.

[Bill Berson]

They have a golf cart at Ultralights if towing is allowed?

[Bill Berson]

Apparently judging is allowed for trailered in aircraft if flown onsite once. From Judging Manual: Any aircraft that has won an award at AirVenture, will not be eligible for the same or alesser award in subsequent years. In any given year, all aircraft are eligible to be judgedin only one division; any aircraft that has been judged in any of the divisions is ineligibleto be judged in any other of the divisions. In order to be judged, the aircraft must beparked in the appropriate area. Any aircraft that has won an award in any division will insubsequent years be ineligible to be judged in any other division. In every category(unless otherwise excepted) in order to be eligible to be judged, the aircraft must eitherhave flown to the convention or be observed to fly during the convention. Scale Replicas(a replica that is less than full size) will be regarded as Homebuilt, with certain exceptionsas noted.

[Jeff Point]

I stand corrected on the flying in part. The clear intent is that only flying airplanes are to be judged but there is more than one way to meet that criteria.

You might give give some more thought to trailering in to a nearby airport. Last year a friend trailered his self-launch glider to Fond du Lac, flew it to Oshkosh, then bummed a ride back to FdL to retrieve his car/ trailer. He can legitimately claim to have flown it to Oshkosh, and surely that is worth something.

[Bill Berson]

Yeah, that might work. There must be a bus back to Fond du Lac.
Was that glider the twin jet engine HP-18? His forum was cool.

[Jeff Point]

That's the one.

There are shuttles running to FdL. Or catch up to me and I'll run you back there on the Breezy. That'll make your amphibian seem like a speed demon!

[Bill Berson]

Wow! That's a deal.
I was thinking of making it open cockpit.... so your Breezy might be faster. :eek: