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CarlOrton
11-12-2017, 05:51 PM
Hi, All;

As some of you may know from another thread, I'm in the process of disassembling a Continental O-200. While I'm not quite at the cylinder removal part yet (but close), I thought I'd see if I could break-loose the base nuts. Of course, my wrenches (standard box/combo wrenches) wouldn't fit, and sockets are out of the question.

So I ordered 1/2 & 9/16 wrenches from ACS (although they were branded as ATS wrenches - a/c tool service). Just got the 9/16 one yesterday. Ooops - it doesn't fit. Either it's too thick around the circumference so it won't fit between the cylinder base and the side of the nut or it's too thick in height to bet between the cylinder fin and over the stud.

Is this normal? Are there better-fit wrenches out there? Must one grind on brand-new wrenches a bit to get them to fit? I paid more for the ATS wrenches instead of ACS' own brand because ATS said theirs were thinner to fit where others wouldn't without having to grind them.

*sigh*
Suggestions? (and Thanks!)

Jeff Point
11-12-2017, 06:35 PM
Totally common with the 1/2 and 9/16 on Continentals. 30 seconds on a grinder will have them fit perfectly.

Mike Switzer
11-12-2017, 06:58 PM
Snap On makes thinner wrenches but for the price difference I would go over to the Rural King, get a Pro Grade wrench & grind it to fit. On a side note, I keep my eyes open when at antique shops & flea markets for serviceable decent quality wrenches (no cheap chinese stuff) I picked up a dozen wrenches & a couple 1/2 inch extensions just the other day. If you have an extra you only paid a couple bucks for it doesn't feel as bad when you grind it down.

Sam Buchanan
11-12-2017, 07:05 PM
The cylinder wrenches I borrowed from a local A&P had spent some quality time at the grinder. Do whatever it takes to make them work, otherwise they are worthless.


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Joda
11-12-2017, 07:40 PM
Yep, mine got grinder marks on them too!!

cub builder
11-12-2017, 10:15 PM
You can always tell a new mechanic by his cylinder wrenches. If they haven't been substantially modified, he hasn't used them.

Kyle Boatright
11-12-2017, 10:48 PM
You can always tell a new mechanic by his cylinder wrenches. If they haven't been substantially modified, he hasn't used them.

Interesting. I have a set from Spruce that works just fine on my wide deck O-320 without modification. I wonder if the problem is unique to Continentals or narrow deck Lycomings?

Mike Switzer
11-12-2017, 11:14 PM
The cylinder wrenches I borrowed from a local A&P had spent some quality time at the grinder. Do whatever it takes to make them work, otherwise they are worthless.


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I have helped take apart a few aircraft engines & for opposed engines, while the A&P I was working with had that type of wrench we never used them. I have some box end adapters that are similar to a crows foot that we used for the couple nuts we couldn't get a regular box end wrench on when we didn't want to remove the entire intake & exhaust. I do have a set of right angle open end cylinder wrenches for Pratt & Whitney radials that I bought cheap from an estate, but again, I have never used them.

Sam Buchanan
11-13-2017, 09:22 AM
I have helped take apart a few aircraft engines & for opposed engines, while the A&P I was working with had that type of wrench we never used them. I have some box end adapters that are similar to a crows foot that we used for the couple nuts we couldn't get a regular box end wrench on when we didn't want to remove the entire intake & exhaust. I do have a set of right angle open end cylinder wrenches for Pratt & Whitney radials that I bought cheap from an estate, but again, I have never used them.

Those adapters may work for disassembly but the cylinder wrenches are necessary for properly torquing the cylinder nuts during reassembly. Correct torque is imperative to prevent potentially catastrophic failure of the cylinder through-studs.

Mike Switzer
11-13-2017, 10:16 AM
Those adapters may work for disassembly but the cylinder wrenches are necessary for properly torquing the cylinder nuts during reassembly. Correct torque is imperative to prevent potentially catastrophic failure of the cylinder through-studs.

Ah, I was not aware of that fact. I did the disassembly, the A&P did the reassembly when I wasn't around.

cub builder
11-13-2017, 09:55 PM
Interesting. I have a set from Spruce that works just fine on my wide deck O-320 without modification. I wonder if the problem is unique to Continentals or narrow deck Lycomings?

You made my point. If you were working on multiple engines, your wrenches would need to fit several different engines, and would have numerous grindings and notches as well as other minor modifications to make them fit more than one application. :)