Med Reform Doctors Form

[gbrasch]

Does anyone have details on the 4 page form our doctors are required to fill out?

[Ernie]

It's at the end of AC 68-1 in draft form. FAA.gov

[Sam Buchanan]

Does anyone have details on the 4 page form our doctors are required to fill out?

Here is the final rule (https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/final_rule_faa_2016_9157.pdf).

Details of medical checklist begin on page 37.

[gbrasch]

Thanks

[FlyingRon]

The AC 68-1 has a sample in the back. Note the AC is not well proofread and has mistakes in it.

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/1030196

[Cardinal729]

I'm not quite sure what looking at my anus and detailing every tattoo/scar has to do with being able to safely fly a plane but thank you SO MUCH to Jack Imhoff for getting this through congress and passed into law. Three cheers for this heroic effort!!

[Floatsflyer]

I'm not quite sure what looking at my anus and detailing every tattoo/scar has to do with being able to safely fly a plane

If your doctor is just "looking" at your anus then you have more problems than just filling out a doctors form.

However, if he puts a glove on and puts a finger up your butt for about a second then he's taking care of your health by checking your prostrate for cancer.

[lynnlpitts]

Generally, the airport bums at JLN, and I, pretty much feel that EAA and AOPA pretty much 'sucker punched' us on our support of Third class medical reform. To us, there wasn't any reform; just another bureaucratic license quagmire. Thanks also must go to the California Democrats that screwed up Jim Inhofe's original intent!

[stewartb]

If the new regs don't suit you, stick with the third class process. Your choice. For me, a guy with an SI that requires a specialist physician to do a worksheet every six months and a complete exam and condition statement once a year so I can ask the FAA's aeromed section to review my doctor's work and if they approve to give me permission to keep flying? Huge improvement. Now my doctor, who I'll see once a year anyway, can run through the FAA checklist and sign me off. Simpler, cheaper, more efficient. The FAA third class and SI never did anything to make me safer, healthier, or a better pilot. It had zero value yet it cost me money and my doctors time to jump through the hoops. And then I got to see an FAA-blessed doctor who did no doctoring but rather was a paperwork handler for the FAA. And I had to pay for that, too. Not any more!

[lynnlpitts]

I am glad it helps you. That is what was needed, but it didn't go far enough due to the airline, LSA, AMA, and ancillary organizations seeking their agenda by lobbying Congress against a simple solution. The fact had a very small percentage of one percent of accidents was caused by a medical problem speaks volumes. I remember in college Stats class that under two percent is not real important. I have several friends here in the same situation that fly Light Sport, and will continue to do so as the grace period of ten years has lapsed for them and the wording of the physician's check list is open to various interpretations, at this time. I'm glad our local senator and reps were for Jim's original intent. Maybe there is hope for my grandkids generation, but I feel my hope was waned.

[cub builder]

Given a steak. Unhappy because is wasn't Filet Mignon? Anything the FAA is involved in is going to be bureaucratic just by their nature. I don't know how you could expect anything else. But now it's 4 years rather than 2. I can deal with my own physician whom I see annually for a physical anyway rather than playing games with an FAA blessed AME that adds no value to my health care. If I ever need a special issuance, it's a one time deal, not an annual deal requiring six months grounded while waiting for the FAA paper pushers. It may not be everything you wanted, but it's a heck of a big step in the right direction. It was only 10 years ago that we were finally able to push the FAA into allowing powered flight without a physical (light sport class). In terms of a government bureaucracy relinquishing power, getting two steps forward in just over a decade is a lot. Maybe 10 years from now, the FAA can be further pushed to meet your desires... if there are enough like minded folks to help you push it. No matter what the proposal, there will always be those with an agenda to oppose it. So it is rare that any proposal goes through congress or a bureaucracy without a significant amount of watering down. In this case, if you don't like the new law, you can always continue getting a 3rd class med. As for me, I don't expect to ever see my AME again unless he happens to be out at the airport.

-Cub Builder

[FlyingRon]

The AME's side of the medical form says "Anus" as well. However, most of the items either on the AME handbook or in the AC 68-1 are pretty vague about what you're supposed to check for on most lines. Anus: has one. Check. Even being one doesn't seem to be disqualifying.

[ronwright5]

I've been flying for over 10 years with NO medical needed and only a valid drivers license. Now, the idiots want me to GET A MEDICAL TO NOT NEED A MEDICAL?? Excuse me, what's the point IF I'm going to be flying USING A DRIVERS LICENSE?

EAA/AOPA both died on the stick getting this passed. They should have held out to get REAL 3RD CLASS MEDICAL REFORM, not this JOKE. Has anyone read the items YOUR doctor has to sign off on?

This was not worth the time and effort and expense to get this comedy into "law".. Shame on Congress and all involved in this fiasco.

Don't we ALL "SELF CERTIFY" ourselves BEFORE every flight to determine IF we should fly or not? What has changed except the level of government involved! More questions into our PRIVATE LIVES. More time and energy expended to satisfy the "government"..

Anyone that thought this BasicMed was going to be an improvement must have been using drugs.

[Sam Buchanan]

Anyone that thought this BasicMed was going to be an improvement must have been using drugs.

Well......I guess I'm on drugs.........

Because after seeing the final rule I'm still convinced BasicMed is a great option for many of us.

[skier]

Well......I guess I'm on drugs.........

Because after seeing the final rule I'm still convinced BasicMed is a great option for many of us.

I'm very happy with how the rule turned out and look forward to taking advantage of it in the future. It would be nice if you didn't need that one-time vist to an AME for a 3rd class, and I'm not really sure what value that requirement adds, but the rule as it stands will be beneficial for many in the future.

Thanks EAA & AOPA. Nice work.

[1600vw]

I've been flying for over 10 years with NO medical needed and only a valid drivers license. Now, the idiots want me to GET A MEDICAL TO NOT NEED A MEDICAL?? Excuse me, what's the point IF I'm going to be flying USING A DRIVERS LICENSE?

EAA/AOPA both died on the stick getting this passed. They should have held out to get REAL 3RD CLASS MEDICAL REFORM, not this JOKE. Has anyone read the items YOUR doctor has to sign off on?

This was not worth the time and effort and expense to get this comedy into "law".. Shame on Congress and all involved in this fiasco.

Don't we ALL "SELF CERTIFY" ourselves BEFORE every flight to determine IF we should fly or not? What has changed except the level of government involved! More questions into our PRIVATE LIVES. More time and energy expended to satisfy the "government"..

Anyone that thought this BasicMed was going to be an improvement must have been using drugs.

Some believe anything they are told. Kinda reminds me of a boss I had once. He would cover the price then put in big words....Special...Then raise the price. Everyone ate it up. They all thought what deal. They got nothing, Kinda like this. I agree with you Ron.

[DaleB]

Well......I guess I'm on drugs.........

Because after seeing the final rule I'm still convinced BasicMed is a great option for many of us.
For many, yes -- especially SI holders. Many of us are still pretty much SOL. I don't begrudge you the minor win, but don't expect a lot of jumping and clapping. Enjoy the victory while you can.