Volunteering and Camping

[Retired Agent]

So I am a new member and new private pilot in 2016, and I think I have found my passion. My wife and I attended Airventure for the first time this year and would like to volunteer next year and maybe come a week or so early to volunteer with the prep then stay through the end volunteering each day some.

So a couple questions: First off, who do we contact to volunteer that early. Second is on camping for that long, we have a motorhome and would be coming in that, so is there a reduced rate for being there while volunteering that long?

Have not not found too much in the forum that was current, so we would love to hear about experiences coming in early to volunteer.

Thanks in advanced

[gbrasch]

You have to put in 40 hours to receive a camping pass and weekly band for the following year. So you will be paying full ride next year. Some jobs are a bit looser than others (I have volunteered in 3 or 4 different locations over the years). And the campground opens up about a month early, so you will pay in advance whatever date you arrive until the end of the show. If you leave early you can get a camping refund for the days you don't use prior to the end of the show. Hope that helps. Glenn

[FlyingRon]

We have volunteers in Vintage Flight Line for a substantial time before the show. You just show up at our operations building (diagonally across from the hangar cafe). We train new and returning volunteers alike twice a day (9 and 1 and possibly others) each day.

As pointed out, your wristbands/camping perks are issued based on the PREVIOUS years work.

[Brian247028]

Good question and I too have been wondering so I did some further checking around. Here is what I learned from Theresa and also the volunteer building.

As mentioned it's based off of the prior years work
You need to put in 60 hrs.
Even with the 60 hrs the chair person that you report to when volunteering has to agree to it
It's for basic camping only. No water / electric. If you want water / electric you pay the difference.

I'm not sure if there are other restrictions. No one person seems to have the answer on this. I wish it would be clearly posted somewhere. Hope this helps.

[Glory Aulik]

So I am a new member and new private pilot in 2016, and I think I have found my passion. My wife and I attended Airventure for the first time this year and would like to volunteer next year and maybe come a week or so early to volunteer with the prep then stay through the end volunteering each day some.

So a couple questions: First off, who do we contact to volunteer that early. Second is on camping for that long, we have a motorhome and would be coming in that, so is there a reduced rate for being there while volunteering that long?

Have not not found too much in the forum that was current, so we would love to hear about experiences coming in early to volunteer.

Thanks in advanced

Hello!

Welcome to our EAA family and congrats on becoming a private pilot! For general volunteer questions feel free to reach out to hr@eaa.org or visit our website for all volunteer opportunities at AirVenture: https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/volunteer/volunteer-at-eaa-airventure-oshkosh.

Camping does open 1 month in advance, so that will be no issue!

If you have any other questions, let me know!

[FlyingRon]

It used to be that each organization lobbied for their own volunteer perks and had to parcel out what they received which led to a lot of disparity between who got what. I think the EAA standardized things a few years ago so that everybody who puts in 60 (provided it is accurately reported, and boy we keep multiple copies of the volunteer hours and bring them back with us the next year to resolve disputes) get credentials.

This year, I didn't even have to hunt down the chairman. My "comped" camping credentials were already registered in the computers (just put in my EAA # and it came up $0 due). Further, you could get them at any camping registration booth on site (there's at least four, probably more). Wristbands I still had to chase down the chairman.

[gbrasch]

Good question and I too have been wondering so I did some further checking around. Here is what I learned from Theresa and also the volunteer building.

As mentioned it's based off of the prior years work
You need to put in 60 hrs.
Even with the 60 hrs the chair person that you report to when volunteering has to agree to it
It's for basic camping only. No water / electric. If you want water / electric you pay the difference.

I'm not sure if there are other restrictions. No one person seems to have the answer on this. I wish it would be clearly posted somewhere. Hope this helps.

60 hours??? Is that new? It has always been 40. The one gripe I have with the way EAA treats it's volunteers is if a person (or couple) volunteer several hours, but not meet the minimum, they get nothing, sad.

[CarlOrton]

OK; I've held off until now, because although EAA methods sometimes irk me, all in all I'm thankful for an organization that has given me such enjoyment and reward.

Volunteer tracking and reward leaves so much to be desired.

A few years ago, I was a volunteer working one of the "out-buildings" close to the N40. The shack "lead" told me that I didn't need to go back to the main building at the end of my shifts to sign-out due to the distance. I think I worked 4 days that year, so about 16 hrs. At the end of the year, I didn't receive my volunteer patch, so I wrote the volunteer coordinator at HQ. She wrote back that I had registered, but never served. That kinda torqued me, but she did send a patch. I sent an email to the two chairmen and they said they'd look into it.

Secondly, I really don't like the "pay ya NEXT year" for your volunteer hours, but I understand the logistics of why. However, as I mentioned, I don't view volunteering as my full-time Convention job, but I enjoy volunteering most of my days on-site (fly commercial, stay in dorms). I do also want to see the exhibits, go to lunch with buds I only see at Convention, etc. I understand that many volunteers DO work 40-60 hrs, and that's their prerogative.

My concern is that we buy a weekly wristband, in advance, and even if I only had to buy 5 days instead of 7, those 5 days are still more $$$ than a weekly band. So I've NEVER received a wrist band, or pushed to get my (?) two. I don't volunteer just to be comp'd, so I'll continue, but the current protocols are the proverbial rock in the shoe.

Perhaps HQ can put some study in to forming TWO classes of volunteers - those who essentially work full-time and deserve the best comps, and the rest of us schlubs who volunteer most days, but not full-time. How 'bout something like a discount off the weekly band, or some passes to receive a free brat and beverage? Even something like a REAL dollars-off coupon for EAA merchandise (gee - that EAA member discount only appears to be valid for stuff I'd never buy....).

Lastly, many of the "fun" volunteer spots are part of a good 'ol boys club. One cannot just walk up and announce that you'd like to volunteer. They're fully booked and don't solicit walkup volunteers. That said, there are THOUSANDS of available slots that go unfilled - if you don't care where you work.

Don't get me wrong. I volunteer just about every year, and look forward to it. I sincerely thank those full-timers who make it all happen. The hours you put in during and before/after Convention to make it all happen are appreciated.

[Retired Agent]

Thanks everyone for the insite. I completely understand the wristband/camping gets comped for next year during the event, make sense to me. Where I think I don't understand is needing to pay camping when getting there early so we can volunteer when nothing else is going on. That part has me scratching my head, as there really is no reason to go early except to volunteer. During the event, yup, got it applies to next year, but pay more to help out early, I'm thinking that's a no go for me.

[FlyingRon]

Many people go early to secure a good spot. Some hang out without volunteering. Some even abandon their camp site and go home to return later on.

Suffice it to say it would be ripe for abuse any other way. As it is, we have people who show up to be trained to get their volunteer credentials (gets them food and some other volunteer support perks) without actually doing any subsequent work. Fortunately, since we went to computerized time records, it's easier to catch those that do this multiple times.

Most of the hard core early arriving volunteers are repeat volunteers and hence they've been rolling forward free camping credentials year to year.

[mcdewey]

When I volunteered a few years back, I got a parking pass after my first day. But I didn't really care. My real reward was being able to stand outside all day in the golden Wisconsin sun and fresh breezes (I sit in a cubicle all day), see many planes up close, see pilots' excitement they climbed out after arriving, and talking to some of the nicest, most knowledgeable people around.

[Bill Greenwood]

When I have been flying in the show, I havent vounteered often since didnt feel I had the time. I often read about the need for volunteers, so this year asked when I checked in Mon, but they didnt want anyone except in the kitchen which is not where I'd be good at all. Might fix burgers or brats but not much more, dont know what all that rabbit food really is, nor much about cheese curds.
I dont need a camping pass, had already bought my week pass, just thought I might help out with part of the public that has some questions. Maybe Ill try next year if I have free time. One year at Sun N Fun I was asked to help and they put me in parking planes, Ive been on the pilot side lots of times, but being on the flag side was a nervous time, but we didnt bang anything or anyone.

[FlyingRon]

Come down to Vintage. We don't make people cook unless that's what floats your boat.

[TedK]

Come down to Vintage. We don't make people cook unless that's what floats your boat.
Can I fib about my Rallye's age and park in Vintage? ;-)

[FlyingRon]

Can I fib about my Rallye's age and park in Vintage? ;-)
No, but you're free to come work and hang out with us.

[TedK]

No, but you're free to come work and hang out with us.
That works. :)

[Gunslinger37]

Ron, tell me the pros vs. cons of Vintage camping with my plane compared to the North 40. How fast does the Vintage airplane camping area fill up?

[FlyingRon]

Well if you have a 1970 or earlier model, you're allowed to camp in Vintage. Vintage is "in the show" so that's a plus and a minus. I consider it a plus. A majority of Vintage camping is such that you can hear the PA (another plus and minus). THe minus is that it's further away from the stuff off-field on the north end.

If you're a Vintage member, you get a photo plaque and a glass mug for participating.

Up until this year, I would say officially Vintage NEVER closed up. This year we transiently closed up Sunday afternoon/evening, but by Monday afternoon, we had departures and we started backfilling those spots.

[L16 Pilot]

With my L16 I could park in the "L" War Birds area but it's so remote from the 'action' I prefer to park in vintage.

[Aviatrexx]

It's not uncommon for warbirds and older homebuilts to prefer to camp in Vintage. The guy in the red flightsuit did... :D


With my L16 I could park in the "L" War Birds area but it's so remote from the 'action' I prefer to park in vintage.

[mazdaP5]

I did see a T-6 down there this year.

[FlyingRon]

It's not uncommon for warbirds and older homebuilts to prefer to camp in Vintage. The guy in the red flightsuit did... :D

They had a 1964 aircraft. Perfectly legal for Vintage.