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LooneyBird
07-18-2016, 08:12 PM
I am looking forward to the announcement at this year's Oshkosh. They are the leader in 3D systems. I just hope that it is something the average guy can afford. Last years discount of $500 was disappointing when I can find several close competitors at an incredibly different price point. The secrecy is scary, but exciting. We should all benefit from this alliance.

PaulDow
07-19-2016, 09:45 PM
What am I missing here? Why does, what appears to me to be a publicly traded (Dassault Systèmes), for profit, company, have their own section here? It looks like I can't even buy their software directly unless i'm a student. If I did want to buy it, it looks like I would have to get a quote from one of their "valued partners".

Edit: I just found a web site that shows a single user license to be $4000. plus $1300 for 1 year support and upgrades. There's also add-ins, professional and premium licenses. The page says: if you are just getting started...budget about $10Kper user.

Is this what EAA typical members are using to design and manufacture parts for experimental category aircraft?

wyoranch
07-19-2016, 10:35 PM
I was wondering that myself......

LooneyBird
07-20-2016, 08:17 AM
This looks like a major announcement. That would be why I think it has it's own section. Also if we typical members can get our hands on the software, we will have questions, so I think it would be great for our community to help each other rather than bogging down or taxing Dessault Systemes resources.

Paul, that is what I found for pricing last year and $500 off of that was not the deal that lured me. I currently use the educational software from AutoDesk, a 3 year license for all of their software including simulation for free.

The other CAD I can use is Onshape, which could be industry changing. They are all cloud based and I can work on my computer at work, home, or on my apple devices and still have access to all my files. They have have a tiered environment so you can easily stay in the free area, and the costs seem more reasonable.

The secrecy of the announcement is making me wonder how big this is. Adding this section increased my anticipation. Now, in my mind the announcement will need show that we typical EAA members could afford it. Being that we do this for an educational endeavour, we can only hope.

PaulDow
07-20-2016, 08:33 AM
They got a pretty good time slot for their announcement, and it's not being held over in the restricted press area.
Companies like to make their announcements as early in the week as possible to get the most time visible during the convention, and this is right after the opening.



Monday 7/25
9:15 a.m.
EAA Welcome Center
EAA/SOLIDWORKS member benefit announcement

rwanttaja
07-20-2016, 08:34 AM
And here I thought it was an acronym for EAA's first porn site: "Stories Of Licentious Iniquity Describing Women Operating Real Kinky Sailplanes."

Ron "Where else can I sell my stories?" Wanttaja

LooneyBird
07-20-2016, 08:55 AM
Ron thanks for the laugh.

Paul, thanks for that. I did not see the posting. As my chapter's newsletter editor i have some press contacting me, but not for this. This will be going in the newsletter. I will be contacting EAA and changing plans to see that announcement. I only saw the presentations by Mr. David Kasinskas of Graphics Systems in the Homebuilders Hangar.

With their own section, and in a location where you can not possibly miss it on the forums, this is sounding very promising. I leave in 3 days, now I am really excited. The laptops will be packed.

Floatsflyer
07-20-2016, 09:15 AM
They got a pretty good time slot for their announcement, and it's not being held over in the restricted press area.
Companies like to make their announcements as early in the week as possible to get the most time visible during the convention, and this is right after the opening.



Monday 7/25
9:15 a.m.
EAA Welcome Center
EAA/SOLIDWORKS member benefit announcement



Not at all good timing. This will compete with the usual yearly Icon 9:00am Monday morning blockbuster media announcement and scrum at their exhibit space when amazing aviation business tycoon and jokester CEO Kirk Hawkins will breathlessly tell the hordes that first deliveries will be in 2027 so get those deposits in quickly. By then the ever convenient CPI and delaying factors should increase the purchase price to $987,000.00.

Frank Giger
07-20-2016, 09:42 AM
And here I thought it was an acronym for EAA's first porn site: "Stories Of Licentious Iniquity Describing Women Operating Real Kinky Sailplanes."

Ron "Where else can I sell my stories?" Wanttaja

Considering the aging of the membership demographic, I thought it was a "male enhancement" pill.

Frank "Just because I endorse a product doesn't mean I use it" Giger

PaulDow
07-20-2016, 09:49 AM
I don't see anything in the press conference and media event schedule for Icon. There would probably be some very difficult answers to deliver this year.

deftone
07-20-2016, 11:02 PM
I don't see anything in the press conference and media event schedule for Icon. There would probably be some very difficult answers to deliver this year.

Even the Icon PR team couldn't deflect all of the negative questions coming their way. I'm not surprised that they are avoiding their usual large media events

lutorm
07-21-2016, 03:23 PM
I am looking forward to the announcement at this year's Oshkosh. They are the leader in 3D systems. I just hope that it is something the average guy can afford. Last years discount of $500 was disappointing when I can find several close competitors at an incredibly different price point. The secrecy is scary, but exciting. We should all benefit from this alliance.

I've been learning to use Autodesk's Fusion360 with its integrated CAD/CAM and my little CNC mill to design and fabricate parts in 6061. There are a few annoyances with F360 but overall I find it very capable and to be able to do the CAM from the same is awesome. Never having used Solidworks, I can't imagine it would be worth paying the extra over F360's $0... Perhaps if you're a professional, but as a hobbyist, no way.

LooneyBird
07-22-2016, 08:51 AM
I am controls engineer, so I don't use 3D CAD yet. I do like to define things before I build them, and I normally over to things. (Build twice, once in a virtual environment, then again in the real world.) I am real comfortable using AutoCAD 2000 for 3D, but know the latest is much better.

I am hoping the announcement is a marriage of the EAA's mission of an educational organization and the SolidWorks Educational pricing. This would turn my head. $0 is great too as there are many competitors that are at that price point.

Because my mission for my plane is composite, redesigning something done in aluminum, I would like some simulation or stress analysis before I build. I don't expect this, but would be HUGE to me. If I can draw in a basic package and have friends at work import and look at the stress to show I am good. That would be all I really need.

The secrecy is incredible. Who ever negotiated this deal has done us all a favor. SolidWorks is an industry leader. If members can get their hands on a copy for a steep discount that will be a wonderful value. Also as the leader this will allow the younger generation to get experience using the software and can make them more desirable as employees. This would be a great way to recruit younger members which we definitely need. I see great things on the horizon. I am still looking forward to this announcement.

Chris In Marshfield
07-23-2016, 05:25 AM
I've started using Autodesk Inventor and their Mechanical Engineering Suite for a bit of 3D learning under their university license (free for three years). It's a cool and flexible product, it seems, but I'm still super green with it. From what I know about SolidWorks, and from what others who use it have said about it, I'm really excited to see how this announcement benefits us.

quesauce
07-24-2016, 05:04 AM
I am controls engineer, so I don't use 3D CAD yet. I do like to define things before I build them, and I normally over to things. (Build twice, once in a virtual environment, then again in the real world.) I am real comfortable using AutoCAD 2000 for 3D, but know the latest is much better.

I'm currently doing exactly as you described but using Fusion 360 to model a Bearhawk Patrol. It's fun in a different sort of way and I think it is helping to work through potential problems before they occur in the real world.

I work with controls, too and I'm anxious to see if the EAA edition includes access to Solidworks Electrical. I don't know if you're familiar with it, but it is similar to ePlan. It would make doing electrical schematics for homebuilts a walk in the park. It also will do harness creation and nailboard patterns.

LooneyBird
07-29-2016, 02:47 PM
Thank you to the team at EAA for setting this up. The announcement is HUGE. I look forward to downloading once I get home from OSH16. Lots of great stuff this year!

wltrmtty
07-31-2016, 04:22 PM
Downloading, now, and pretty excited about drawing fittings to be cut out by my local waterjet shop. I was trained on CATIA several years ago and expect it to be like riding a bicycle.

Thanks EAA!

MADean
08-01-2016, 06:00 AM
With 25 years of CAD experience, including 14 years of Solidworks, I have come to prefer non-history based "direct" modeling. It's easier, faster, with far less headaches. And, in my opinion, easier to learn.

My software of choice is Kubotek's KeyCreator. (http://kubotek3d.com/) (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=keycreator)

mdavisgtm
08-02-2016, 11:36 AM
I was just wondering how long I should wait for the activation Key to come from Solidworks? I filled out and submitted the form two days ago and I have still not received the activation key. It looks like some of the other guys on here got it right away so how do I find out if something went wrong with it?

Cory Puuri
08-02-2016, 12:21 PM
I was just wondering how long I should wait for the activation Key to come from Solidworks? I filled out and submitted the form two days ago and I have still not received the activation key. It looks like some of the other guys on here got it right away so how do I find out if something went wrong with it?

It should have been in your email within 5 minutes of submitting the SOLIDWORKS form and beginning the download. Did you download their software?

mdavisgtm
08-02-2016, 12:42 PM
I downloaded the installation manager It wont let you download the software until you have the Key :(

Cory Puuri
08-02-2016, 01:36 PM
Check your spam filter, then. You did enter the unique code we sent you from the EAA website into the form field from SOLIDWORKS, right?

Alternatively, follow the instructions you received from EAA via email, again and make sure you are using a valid email on the SOLIDWORKS web form and try again.

mdavisgtm
08-02-2016, 03:24 PM
I just did all that and made sure that everything was correct still not working.

TTURV7
08-02-2016, 03:47 PM
I'm having the same problem. I signed up last week and I received the download information, but I have not received the Key email. I tried filling out the information again today, and have not received either email.

I have been checking my junk and spam mails everyday as well.

Question: I have been using E-Drawings to view STP files for sometime. Would the fact that Dassault has my email on file from that download interfere with this registration?

Thanks

adacube
08-02-2016, 04:05 PM
I was in the same boat until I checked my spam folder after a few days of waiting. I'm not sure why it was sent there but at least I'm downloading it now. Maybe it would be worth checking your email settings in case the "spam" is getting automatically deleted. Filling out the form again sends out another email with the exact same key.

mdavisgtm
08-02-2016, 04:23 PM
I got it! It was hidden way in my spam folder thank you for the help!

TTURV7
08-02-2016, 09:54 PM
Yeah, I have scoured my spam and junk folders with no luck. Crazy thing is, I got the EAA email telling how to fill out the form and download, but I never received the seperate email with the key. I've even filled out the registration twice and still no key email.

Patrick
08-03-2016, 08:43 AM
I never received the seperate email with the key. I've even filled out the registration twice and still no key email.

I went around & around with this too. Finally entered my work email address in their form, and got the email with the registration code within seconds.

I suspect that they do not reply to yahoo accounts, or that yahoo is filtering them (yeah, I checked spam, etc, etc)

Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ

TTURV7
08-03-2016, 08:35 PM
I went around & around with this too. Finally entered my work email address in their form, and got the email with the registration code within seconds.

I suspect that they do not reply to yahoo accounts, or that yahoo is filtering them (yeah, I checked spam, etc, etc)

Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ

I think you hit the nail on the head!!! Thanks. I used my Gmail instead of Yahoo and it came right thru. They must be filtering Yahoo for some reason.

Mike

Bill Simpson
08-24-2016, 01:48 PM
I am going through the download process, and the second page wants my serial number. Where does that come from?

AnnaWood
08-27-2016, 07:22 PM
I am going through the download process, and the second page wants my serial number. Where does that come from?

You will receive an e-mail from the SolidWorks Education Dept. Buried down a paragraph or two will be your serial number.

Alvin Voigt
11-07-2016, 11:11 PM
I have been unable to install SolidWorks. Every attempt now provides this sequence:

Click the onscreen icon "SOLIDWORKS 2016 x64 Edition
Small window opens: "SOLIDWORKS 2016 x64 Edition SP02"
"Please wait while Windows configures SOLIDWORKS 2016 x64 Edition SP02"

After the green bar advances to quite near the end of the box, a new small window opens:
"Error 2753. The file 'drawcompare.exe' is not marked for installation"
Click "OK"

New small window opens:
"Problem with Shortcut Fatal error during installation.
Click "OK" and the window closes.

New small window opens:
"Fatal error during installation."

SolidWorks is not installed and this sequence occurs each time I double click the SolidWorks icon.
SolidWorks promises no technical support for the EAA student version. So far, SolidWorks has kept its promise.

Cory Puuri
11-08-2016, 03:09 PM
I have been unable to install SolidWorks. Every attempt now provides this sequence:

That is a Windows error that appears to occur when the prior version of a software program does not completely uninstall. Use this method to completely uninstall SOLIDWORKS and then reinstall it:
https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/41343

Alvin Voigt
11-19-2016, 10:30 PM
Cory,

Thank you for your attempt to help. These errors are from a current version of SW 2016, not a prior version of SW. I have only the current version of SW 2016.

I first reloaded a full disk image from a backup, then downloaded the voluminous W10 corrections for MS faulty coding. The backup image contained an installed but inoperable SW 2016.

The uninstall remove method from the link you provided kinda-sorta worked but the batch file did not remove very much. I used the file and registry locations in the batch file and manually removed the directories and directory entries that still existed.

Next, SW 1016 installed correctly and I was able to begin a SW tutorial from the SW web site two days ago. This computer has operated properly for all other uses for the past two days.

Today, judging from the delays and messages in shutdown and booting W10, several more MS updates to correct more faulty W10 coding were automatically downloaded and installed on this computer.

Now, the message "Error 2753, The file 'drawcompare.exe' is not marked for installation." is displayed and SW installation backs out and the message "Problem with shortcut Fatal error during installation." is displayed. SW will not open. This error is also one of the same errors as I had in my previous attempts to install SW 2016.

So far, I have been unable to accomplish only one small bit of training and no useful work in SW. I might attempt to learn FreeCAD and give up on SW although FreeCAD seems to have some difficulty importing a dxf file created by DraftSight.

I am not interested in a full uninstall in detail and a reinstall of SW each time I attempt to open SW.

cwilliamrose
11-22-2016, 08:05 AM
Is it still possible these days to setup a dual boot? If you were running Win7 (Pro) you might avoid a lot of the problems you're seeing as it is a mature OS with a good track record running SWx.

Jeffrey Meyer
11-23-2016, 02:45 PM
Is it still possible these days to setup a dual boot? If you were running Win7 (Pro) you might avoid a lot of the problems you're seeing as it is a mature OS with a good track record running SWx.
Fantastic idea - I'm glad I thought of ithttp://eaaforums.org/images/icons/wink.gif


http://www.howtogeek.com/214477/how-to-dual-boot-two-or-more-versions-of-windows/

Cory Puuri
11-28-2016, 10:50 AM
Cory,

Thank you for your attempt to help. These errors are from a current version of SW 2016, not a prior version of SW. I have only the current version of SW 2016.

I first reloaded a full disk image from a backup, then downloaded the voluminous W10 corrections for MS faulty coding. The backup image contained an installed but inoperable SW 2016.

The uninstall remove method from the link you provided kinda-sorta worked but the batch file did not remove very much. I used the file and registry locations in the batch file and manually removed the directories and directory entries that still existed.

Next, SW 1016 installed correctly and I was able to begin a SW tutorial from the SW web site two days ago. This computer has operated properly for all other uses for the past two days.

Today, judging from the delays and messages in shutdown and booting W10, several more MS updates to correct more faulty W10 coding were automatically downloaded and installed on this computer.

Now, the message "Error 2753, The file 'drawcompare.exe' is not marked for installation." is displayed and SW installation backs out and the message "Problem with shortcut Fatal error during installation." is displayed. SW will not open. This error is also one of the same errors as I had in my previous attempts to install SW 2016.

So far, I have been unable to accomplish only one small bit of training and no useful work in SW. I might attempt to learn FreeCAD and give up on SW although FreeCAD seems to have some difficulty importing a dxf file created by DraftSight.

I am not interested in a full uninstall in detail and a reinstall of SW each time I attempt to open SW.

Sorry for the frustration you're experiencing. I will contact GSC, our VAR to see if they have a fix for this. It sounds like this is a Microsoft updates issue, in which case, Bill and Jeffrey's work around might be a fix. In any case, I would recommend uninstalling SW completely and reinstalling it. I suspect you will only encounter this problem when Microsoft updates are applied that mess with the Registry.

Alvin Voigt
12-03-2016, 11:49 AM
I will contact GSC, our VAR to see if they have a fix for this. It sounds like this is a Microsoft updates issue, in which case, Bill and Jeffrey's work around might be a fix. In any case, I would recommend uninstalling SW completely and reinstalling it. I suspect you will only encounter this problem when Microsoft updates are applied that mess with the Registry.

Hi Cory,
No joy yet. It seems this is neither a unique coding error, an unrepeatable coding error, nor a recent coding error. It might be solvable by using SW 2016 SP04 rather than SW 2016 SP02 that GSC is using for EAA. See https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/171863 The number of similar failures reported in that SW forum post, without citation for the failures reports, seems to imply that that competent testing is neither available nor every attempted before a SW version release.

Of course, we will be unable to determine if SE 2016 SP04 is a real solution.

Alvin

Alvin Voigt
12-03-2016, 05:17 PM
Is it still possible these days to setup a dual boot? If you were running Win7 (Pro) you might avoid a lot of the problems you're seeing as it is a mature OS with a good track record running SWx.
Thank you, William, for the idea. However, all my home machines have been upgraded via the free W10 from MS, so all my W7 licenses are no longer valid. I would have to add another $100, or so, for a W7 license and then it is still not a sure install as noticed in https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/171863 (https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/171863). Frustrating, it is.

cwilliamrose
12-03-2016, 05:56 PM
We have recently purchased two Win7 Pro OS sealed products for around $40 each on eBay. No problems with either install or registration -- FWIW.

Cory Puuri
12-16-2016, 06:00 AM
I spoke with Jeff Setzer from GSC and he said that they are all running W10. In fact, that is what he was using when he demoed SW on the webinar this month. Of course he was running 2017, which at least suggests that version/SP works on W10. I have a call into DS SolidWorks on updates to the SDK, but this may be for naught if I can convince them to convert us to the Student Engineering Kit with features members have requested. I'll keep you all posted.

TedK
12-16-2016, 02:43 PM
Cory- From what I can tell from using the EAA's version of Solidworks is that the ability to place a Load on a part and do an analysis is too rudimentary. If EAA could get us a version that gives us the ability to more accurately place Loads, that would be a major increase in its usefulness.

thanks,

ted