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Frank Giger
06-21-2016, 10:10 AM
Having the GoPro on a head strap is the same as SpazCam for me, so I moved it to the interplane strut on the right of the aircraft, putting it about a third the way up from the lower wing.

I'm not thrilled with the result:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4BvxNQtx5w

It was mounted using the bicycle mount around the strut (with a bit of tape to safety it), and I'm thinking I need to bring it higher.

Anyone else have these sort of problems, and how did you resolve it?

rwanttaja
06-21-2016, 11:16 AM
Having the GoPro on a head strap is the same as SpazCam for me, so I moved it to the interplane strut on the right of the aircraft, putting it about a third the way up from the lower wing.

I'm not thrilled with the result:

It was mounted using the bicycle mount around the strut (with a bit of tape to safety it), and I'm thinking I need to bring it higher.

Anyone else have these sort of problems, and how did you resolve it?
I use a Contour HD camera, and have three stock mounts...one on the tail post (won't work for you), one on the wing tiedown (roughly equivalent of your strut mount), and one on the axle (which is fixed, compared to your bungeed axle). Here's a video from the tail-post mount:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8cEA5NhTuE

Engine vibration causes jiggling of the image, an effect called "Jellying." It's stronger nearer the engine. You can research the term, and find several potential solutions. One involves installing a filter in front of the lens.

Ron Wanttaja

rwanttaja
06-21-2016, 11:18 AM
Having the GoPro on a head strap is the same as SpazCam for me, so I moved it to the interplane strut on the right of the aircraft, putting it about a third the way up from the lower wing.

I'm not thrilled with the result:

It was mounted using the bicycle mount around the strut (with a bit of tape to safety it), and I'm thinking I need to bring it higher.

Anyone else have these sort of problems, and how did you resolve it?
I use a Contour HD camera, and have three stock mounts...one on the tail post (won't work for you), one on the wing tiedown (roughly equivalent of your strut mount), and one on the axle (which is fixed, compared to your bungeed axle). Here's a video from the tail-post mount:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8cEA5NhTuE

Engine vibration causes jiggling of the image, an effect called "Jellying." It's stronger nearer the engine. You can research the term, and find several potential solutions. One involves installing a filter in front of the lens.

Ron Wanttaja

ssmdive
06-21-2016, 12:20 PM
I mount camera's in several places.

This one shows two positions (Wing facing in and top wing facing back)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yonaZ4WSirE

This one shows facing FWD from a Strut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X3JGwMLJ3w&list=PLaG50Nso598AO-s4hGjljOSgwF7TOm9Zw&index=1

This one shows facing in and tail post facing FWD

https://youtu.be/qflYFYvAmJk?list=PLaG50Nso598AO-s4hGjljOSgwF7TOm9Zw

This one is mounted behind my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG-mlDhRt_A&index=2&list=PLaG50Nso598AO-s4hGjljOSgwF7TOm9Zw

Mark van Wyk
06-21-2016, 01:10 PM
Nice GoPro, Ron.

Frank Giger
06-21-2016, 09:58 PM
All of it is gorgeous!

Thanks so much for y'all's help, once again!

1600vw
06-22-2016, 06:42 AM
While I like all the video's. Could someone show how they mounted said go-pro. I thought this thread would be about mounting a go-pro and not the video from said go-pro. ssmdive love the video's.

1600vw
06-22-2016, 06:48 AM
A buddy mounted his go-pro on my airplane before a short flight on a really gusty afternoon. This go-pro is mounted on the landing gear.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i-cw8vBNUo

1600vw
06-22-2016, 06:59 AM
Here is a little different view from a go-pro.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdIz9fkRgc

Frank Giger
06-22-2016, 08:45 AM
While I like all the video's. Could someone show how they mounted said go-pro. I thought this thread would be about mounting a go-pro and not the video from said go-pro. ssmdive love the video's.

It's really both - I needed to find out what was causing the "jello" effect and if it's mount based and could it be solved in post-processing.

I would like to see some of the actual mountings - hardly anybody takes pictures of that - and some vibration solutions. I'm thinking that the bog standard bicycle clamp with its tiny bit of grippy foam isn't cutting the mustard on that score. :)

Maybe some pipe insulation around the strut and move it up towards the upper wing....

Then again, I bought an el-cheapo GoPro knockoff for 100 bucks at WallyWorld and am going to put it where the 300 dollar GoPro was. Sometimes lower tech stuff actually does better than the precision instruments.

The reason I got it was for putting on the rear cabane looking backwards, so I can see exactly what I'm doing with the rudder on takeoff and landing after the fact. Of course, I type that after figuring out what my little Bebe needs at both ends of the flight.

rwanttaja
06-22-2016, 10:03 AM
It's really both - I needed to find out what was causing the "jello" effect and if it's mount based and could it be solved in post-processing.

I would like to see some of the actual mountings - hardly anybody takes pictures of that - and some vibration solutions. I'm thinking that the bog standard bicycle clamp with its tiny bit of grippy foam isn't cutting the mustard on that score. :)
I actually take pictures of my mountings (and often post them to the Fly Baby web page) but since I use a Contour camera, they're not necessarily applicable to GoPro users. Aluminum channel and hose clamps, mostly, with foam rubber to harm the paint as little as possible.

Contour has some advantages over GoPro... it's a tube, so there's less drag force on the mount. It also has a rotatable lens, so you can mount the camera on its side and still generate upright video. It uses slide-in slimline mounts that incorporate the standard 1/4" threaded hole for camera mounting. Even has a slot that will accept a bit of safety wire.

Unfortunately, for our uses, the Contour has the same disadvantage of a GoPro: It's TOO light. A heavier device would be more stable, not be as conducive to jiggling, and, most important of all, can benefit from foam and other vibration-absorbing materials. Our little cameras are too light for foam/rubber/other to help.

I've heard the filter helps (it's a GoPro thing, so I'm out of luck). Basic thing is does is make the camera open the aperture more and reduce its frame rate, which minimizes the jellying effect. It's not universally effective, though...many of you probably saw the TV series "Flying Wild Alaska," where they had GoPros mounted outside the Cessnas. You often saw jellying in the images on the show.

I think the only true solution is an image-stabilizing camera. These don't cost much more than the GoPro type, but they're usually a bit larger and hence harder to install. They work by having a bigger focal plane; when steady, the normal-size image has a border of extra detectors. If the image jiggles but still remains on the focal plane, the software corrects the "center point" of the image.

Ron Wanttaja

ssmdive
06-22-2016, 06:52 PM
While I like all the video's. Could someone show how they mounted said go-pro. I thought this thread would be about mounting a go-pro and not the video from said go-pro. ssmdive love the video's.

The side mount will work facing in, facing out, fwd or back. I tape the excess down to prevent flutter on film.

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The tail mount is on the tail wheel spring. I tip tie it as a secondary attachment.

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The Pitts side facing and FWD wing facing are just like the side facing on the Citabria, but on the I strut.

I also mounted a camera on the bulkhead behind my left ear for the spin video.

For some of the Citabria videos looking inside, I used the bike handlebar mount and mounted it on the bars near the wind shield. I used the same mount on the backwards Pitts face shots on the handle to climb in and out of the Pitts.

I can take some shots of the Pitts mounts this weekend... The Citabria I sold so it is gone.