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raytoews
03-05-2015, 06:36 PM
Harrison Ford injured in plane crash a couple hours ago. Any news?
Looked like a BT19? or SNJ?

Ray

Todd copeland
03-05-2015, 06:57 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/03/05/harrison-ford-reportedly-injured-in-calif-plane-crash/

Dana
03-05-2015, 07:42 PM
It's a PT-22. Hope he's OK.

gbrasch
03-05-2015, 07:50 PM
Said he had facial injuries, guess he is lucky.

Floatsflyer
03-05-2015, 07:50 PM
He is OK, cuts and bruises and red stuff but OK. The condition of the airplane lying on the golf course looks pretty good; he made a very good forced landing.

Kiwi ZK-CKE
03-05-2015, 10:55 PM
Wishing Harrison a speedy recovery - Get well soon!

raytoews
03-06-2015, 12:59 PM
CNN has a reasonable piece. Quoted an FAA guy and Tom Haines. Scary Mary was quoted as saying airplanes get more dangerous as they get older. Duh

Ray

RickFE
03-06-2015, 01:53 PM
A few things I heard:

"You have to question the integrity of those older airplanes."

"...unfortunately most of these types of accidents end tragically."

From an "Expert": "as you get lower you lose control because you can't go back up"

"the landing gear were designed to collapse."

Floatsflyer
03-06-2015, 02:13 PM
Less than 30 minutes ago, a CNN talking head interviewing an owner of 2 PT-22's and after this pilot/owner said he had a forced landing in one of them.

"Is it the structure of this kind of older plane that makes the engine stop more frequently?"

Both men and women equally ask these inane questions. A woman asked this one. Luckily she's very pretty so she'll never have to ask, "can I upsize that for you?"

George Sychrovsky
03-06-2015, 03:19 PM
When see the wings are in-printed in to the ground and following the unevenness of the terrain I stop calling it "landing"


He is OK, cuts and bruises and red stuff but OK. The condition of the airplane lying on the golf course looks pretty good; he made a very good forced landing.

Mike M
03-07-2015, 07:17 AM
CNN has a reasonable piece. Quoted an FAA guy and Tom Haines. Scary Mary was quoted as saying airplanes get more dangerous as they get older. Duh

Ray

1. An aircraft, indeed anything mechanical, is only as old as the money spent on it. :)
2. If old airplanes are so unsafe, how'd they get so old? :)
Chuckle. Scary Mary. Why do they bother to ask her? Same reply, every time. "Aircraft are all inherently unsafe, pilots are all incompetent, send me more money for more studies."

George Sychrovsky
03-09-2015, 09:55 AM
There is surprisingly huge amount of speculation on what happened prior to the crash The turnaround maneuver and all that
In the Fox article it said he was 20 minutes into the flight 3000 feet high and half mile away from the airport. Am I the only one who read this ?
there are at least two videos, one short snippet when he is pretty high, hard to tell exactly but maybe 1000 feet
the other longer shows a longer straight line descent until it goes below the trees .

If these numbers are correct , then he missed an airport of the size of a small European country from 3000 feet that was right under-need him.

WLIU
03-09-2015, 11:07 AM
You are willing to assume the worst of a pilot based on information provided by the same people who tell you that airplanes get more dangerous as they get older?

Best of luck,

Wes
N78PS

George Sychrovsky
03-09-2015, 11:17 AM
I don't assume anything,
this is a reported statement by City Manager Elaine Polachek who got it from air traffic controllers.
there are two sources that would know for sure, The traffic controllers an Harrison f
Ford himself
when you find better info let me know, If Mr Harrison calls, don't forget to ask

Happy landings to you

Check 6
03-13-2015, 01:04 PM
He wasn't 3,000 feet over the airport. He was cleared for takeoff and 90 seconds later he reported an engine failure. Listen to LiveAtc: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ksmo/KSMO-Twr-Mar-05-2015-2200Z.mp3

Cleared for takeoff +19:43
Engine failure +21:15