AirVenture Schedule

[troy_m]

With the new website, is there a way to get a "printer-friendly" version of the daily schedule. Just tried printing one day's schedule from the site, and there appears to be some formatting issues. I like to have a printed copy that I can mark up & make notes on to bring with me to AirVenture.

[rleffler]

With the new website, is there a way to get a "printer-friendly" version of the daily schedule. Just tried printing one day's schedule from the site, and there appears to be some formatting issues. I like to have a printed copy that I can mark up & make notes on to bring with me to AirVenture.

I guess great minds think a like......

I tried doing the same earlier in the week. I'm bring a first time with me this year and wanted to print off a list of forums and workshops.

I seem to recall that there used to be an application that allowed you to select the sessions of interest and tailor a custom schedule. If that is no longer a feature of the site, it will be greatly missed. It was something I used to plan my week.

bob

[rbarkerjr]

I guess great minds think a like......

I seem to recall that there used to be an application that allowed you to select the sessions of interest and tailor a custom schedule. If that is no longer a feature of the site, it will be greatly missed. It was something I used to plan my week.

bob

Me too, Bob!

[troy_m]

I normally use Internet Explorer, which is where I was having the issue. I also have Firefox installed on my computer, and I seemed to have better luck when printing using Firefox.

[CarlOrton]

I don't know if it's what y'all have used in the past, but http://eaaapps.org is still there and APPEARS to be the same tool as in years past.

Dunno if it's on another main page; I just always bookmarked it so I'd have easy access.

[rleffler]

I don't know if it's what y'all have used in the past, but http://eaaapps.org is still there and APPEARS to be the same tool as in years past.

Dunno if it's on another main page; I just always bookmarked it so I'd have easy access.

Thanks Carl! I'll have to do the same.

bob

[rleffler]

Thanks Carl! I'll have to do the same.

bob

Looks like mostly Vintage data has been loaded to the app. Guess we'll have to wait to get the forum data loaded. Hopefully, it's not an orphaned application.

[CarlOrton]

post deleted; first time I tried, nothing happened; now stuff is popping up, so I don't know if it was just loaded or whatever, but I'm OK for now!

Thanks to whomever got this loaded!

[gbrasch]

In the past I believe Sportys sponsored the app, I look forward to it again. EAA staff, will there be another app this year?

[Chris In Marshfield]

Hal was just test driving the pre-release version of the smart phone app several days ago, according to his Facebook post. He expects it to be released after the July 4 holiday. iOS and Android, according to the post. Keeping my eyes open!

[Hal Bryan]

I seem to recall that there used to be an application that allowed you to select the sessions of interest and tailor a custom schedule. If that is no longer a feature of the site, it will be greatly missed. It was something I used to plan my week.

bob


Hi Bob -

This feature is now available on the website for both AirVenture and year-round events. You do need to be logged in to the site - as long as you are, when you browse events on the AirVenture calendar, you'll see an "Add to My Itinerary" button. When you've done that, you can view your itinerary, and bring up a printer-friendly version of the page. There is one remaining ugly bug that should be fixed shortly, and that is that the items in the itinerary are currently sorting in order of the date/time you added them, not of the date/time of the event itself.



In the past I believe Sportys sponsored the app, I look forward to it again. EAA staff, will there be another app this year?

Hey Glenn -

Yes! We expect to launch it within the next couple of weeks or so on iOS (iPhone and iPad) and Android (phones and tablets) as well as the Amazon app store for Kindle Fire.

Watch e-Hotline and the site (http://airventure.org/app) for news of the final version's availability.

Regards -

Hal

[glider90]

Blackberry? (Ducking)...

[Hal Bryan]

Oh, glider90... Let's just say that they didn't quite meet our criteria for minimum market share when deciding which platforms to support. :)

[Foxbuilder]

I'm trying to save some forums in My itinerary. When I save them there is no way to go directly back to where I was in the schedule. The back button goes directly to the first page. Then i have to remember where I was and click on the page number. Also page 6 is not working for the forums. This new site has alot of bugs. Frustrating.:(

[CarlOrton]

Foxbuilder, yes, it's frustrating. I noticed the same thing. I also noticed that the iPhone app schedule isn't the same as the website schedule. I understand the need for a consistent website, and the old one was a hodge-podge of "stuff." It's also not easy to get a new site running if it's of this magnitude. Just a shame that it's happening 3 wks before Convention.

To be fair, I hated the new format schedule. however, once I started using it, I found out that I could find everything I needed via judicious use of search terms. It'll get there. Hopefully in the next week or two. They're probably still adding forums to the schedule anyway (always happens, regardless of year), so the final schedule is still simmering.

[gbrasch]

Foxbuilder, yes, it's frustrating. I noticed the same thing. I also noticed that the iPhone app schedule isn't the same as the website schedule. .

Where do you even see a iPhone app schedule???

[gbrasch]

I'm trying to save some forums in My itinerary. When I save them there is no way to go directly back to where I was in the schedule. The back button goes directly to the first page. Then i have to remember where I was and click on the page number. Also page 6 is not working for the forums. This new site has alot of bugs. Frustrating.:(

Here is some more feedback Hal. Page 6 still will not load. Load times, especially adding an item to an itinerary very slow. Also, if you do make it past page 6 looking for items to ad, hitting the back button, as said above, takes you back to page 1, and the page tabs on the bottom only go back up to 5, so you have to keep loading pages you have already seen to be able to get past page 6, if this makes any sense. I gave up, don't have the time. I hope a fix and phone app shows up soon. Hope this helps. Glenn

[CarlOrton]

Where do you even see a iPhone app schedule???

Uhhhh,...on the forums tab on the iPhone app for 2014? it's on the app store, and it's been updated pretty regularly.

[Hal Bryan]

Here is some more feedback Hal. Page 6 still will not load. Load times, especially adding an item to an itinerary very slow. Also, if you do make it past page 6 looking for items to ad, hitting the back button, as said above, takes you back to page 1, and the page tabs on the bottom only go back up to 5, so you have to keep loading pages you have already seen to be able to get past page 6, if this makes any sense. I gave up, don't have the time. I hope a fix and phone app shows up soon. Hope this helps. Glenn


Thanks for the detailed feedback, Glenn - we're looking into it.

[Hal Bryan]

Uhhhh,...on the forums tab on the iPhone app for 2014? it's on the app store, and it's been updated pretty regularly.

While version 1.0 is available for iOS in the Apple App Store right now, we won't officially be launching this year's app until the next version goes live alongside the Android version, hopefully late next week.

Oh, and Carl - please let us know if you see specific discrepancies between the web schedule and that in the app. The data comes from the exact same source, so the app info will match the site perfectly, as of the last update. We'll be pushing those updates you're seeing pretty frequently for the next couple of weeks, then hoping to dial it back to twice a day during convention, unless there's an urgent change.

[gbrasch]

Uhhhh,...on the forums tab on the iPhone app for 2014? it's on the app store, and it's been updated pretty regularly.

Oh, yea, the App Store, why didn't I think of that? Thanks

[dclaxon]

I'm trying to save some forums in My itinerary. When I save them there is no way to go directly back to where I was in the schedule. The back button goes directly to the first page. Then i have to remember where I was and click on the page number. Also page 6 is not working for the forums. This new site has alot of bugs. Frustrating.:(

One habit I've formed over the years, and not just using the Airventure schedule but any time I'm following a link, is o right click on the link and select "Open in a new tab" from the menu that pops up. Then the page you're linking from never goes away, and you just close the new tab instead of going back

Dave

[CarlOrton]

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Oh, and Carl - please let us know if you see specific discrepancies between the web schedule and that in the app. The data comes from the exact same source, so the app info will match the site perfectly, as of the last update. We'll be pushing those updates you're seeing pretty frequently for the next couple of weeks, then hoping to dial it back to twice a day during convention, unless there's an urgent change.

Well, as one example, if you search for Sonex on the website, it brings up the known (to me) forum sessions, which include a Homebuilt in Review session on Monday around noon-ish. On the iPhone, searching for Sonex brings up most of the known sessions, but not the Monday HB in Review session.

If you search for "homebuilt", you get a list of what seem to be applicable forums, but not a single "Homebuilt in Review". Or HB in Review.

If you search for a presenter (Monnett in this case) on the website, you get the list of forums in which a Monnett is presenting. The iPhone app returns zero results.

If you search for RV12 or RV-12, again, there's no HB in Review whereas there is on the website.

[Hal Bryan]

Okay - thanks, Carl. I'll dig into this tomorrow. In the meantime, be sure to accept content updates to the app as they come.

[Mayhemxpc]

Will the warbirds schedule (already published on the WOA website) ever make it in the website or on the apps?

[Hal Bryan]

Mayhemxpc - if you're talking about the Warbirds in Review schedule, that's already on the site and will be in the app as soon as we do our next content update, likely tomorrow.

[Mayhemxpc]

It seems that many are on line now. Last time I did a search on the iPhone zoo under "warbird" I go no matches. Now there are many.

Every time I wake up my phone there is a new update, so I should expect that things will continue to improve and be more complete. Are the movies and performances going to be on the site -- or are they there already and I can't figure out how to access them?

Overall, this is a GREAT resource.

Chris Mayer
N424AF

[Hal Bryan]

Yeah, there will be multiple updates for the next couple of weeks as schedules are finalized, new features in the app are tested, etc. During convention, we'll try to adhere to a more regular schedule, maybe twice a day as needed.

To find movies on the site:

Go to www.airventure.org
Click Schedule
Click Evening Entertainment
Click Movies

[TedK]

Hal- will the Airventure Apps include info on the Exhibitors?

You've done a great job on schedule management with this App.

Let me dream here,...but what if it was also map based and not only could you see the when and where of the Forums you were attending but you also picked the Exhibitors you wanted to see all laid out on a map...

[Hal Bryan]

Hal- will the Airventure Apps include info on the Exhibitors?

Yes, absolutely. You'll start to see some of them pop up in searches, but the whole directory will go live with the next version release of the app.


You've done a great job on schedule management with this App. Thank you!


Let me dream here,...but what if it was also map based and not only could you see the when and where of the Forums you were attending but you also picked the Exhibitors you wanted to see all laid out on a map...

We're not going to be able to go quite that far with this release, but you will be able to see the booth number, and, if you tap on the 4 main exhibit hangars on the map, that brings up the numbered floorplan, which should make it easier.

[gbrasch]

Hal, I am sure you are getting tired of all these "suggestions", so bear with me. In past years when scrolling through the forum schedules, the times always showed. This year they do not, unless you open up the program description. I find this somewhat awkward, but don't know if you can fix it or not. Just my .2 cents. Glenn

[Hal Bryan]

Hal, I am sure you are getting tired of all these "suggestions", so bear with me. In past years when scrolling through the forum schedules, the times always showed. This year they do not, unless you open up the program description. I find this somewhat awkward, but don't know if you can fix it or not. Just my .2 cents. Glenn

Glenn - Here's how it will look in the next update. This build is awaiting Apple's approval now. What do you think?

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[N222AB]

Much better. I, too, was not happy with times being omitted.

[gbrasch]

Glenn - Here's how it will look in the next update. This build is awaiting Apple's approval now. What do you think?

3994

Great!

[rleffler]

Hal,

I'm getting data update notifications about every ten minutes on my iPhone. Are they really releasing data updates that frequently?

bob

[Hal Bryan]

Hal,

I'm getting data update notifications about every ten minutes on my iPhone. Are they really releasing data updates that frequently?

bob

Hi Bob -

Sorry about that - the short answer is "yes." We had an issue with the update mechanism over the last few days, so today was the first day we could update in a while, and there were 2 or 3 of us scrambling to get things caught up all at once - I'm afraid we didn't do a good job of communicating in-house about who was going to push the button when.

There will undoubtedly be other periods like this here and there over the next couple weeks, but we will do a better job of being more disciplined about when we trigger the update - our goal is no more than twice a day, unless it's something really pressing, so please bear with us.

Thanks!

Hal

[rleffler]

Thanks, I just wanted to check to ensure it was real data updates and not an application defect. As an IT guy, I'm used to providing feedback during the pre-production phase of software roll outs.

[N222AB]

I've done an update three times in the last couple of hours to make sure I had the right update, but I'm still not seeing the times on the forums list. Is this still in a yet unreleased update?

[rleffler]

I've done an update three times in the last couple of hours to make sure I had the right update, but I'm still not seeing the times on the forums list. Is this still in a yet unreleased update?
Hal mentioned that will come with an application update, which hasn't come from from Apple yet.

[Howard Handelman]

I am sorry to be negative and critical, but in my "career" I did (and managed) a lot of application development and I still teach computers on a volunteer basis. I think I'm qualified to make these observations and recommendations.

1. The performance of the web application is dialup speed when adding to my itinerary. I hate to imagine why so I won't speculate. When it finally says it added to my itinerary there is no obvious way to return to where I was in the list. Yes, I know that a simple "back" works, but good application design does not hide navigation.
2. I can't find a way to print the entire schedule or a query result. Personally, I would not do that, but my friend Jack Norris asked me how to do it and I could not.
3. The search is not working very well. I could not find anything under Jack's last name or "propellers" or "propellors" and yet there are four forums with that last name, two from Jack and two from Joe. The iPhone app finds them. There are even more with the prop subject.
4. The iPhone app is much better but I see from the comments above that it has issues, too. That app appears to come from Sporty's and I welcome their assistance but EAA should do better on their official site. This is not rocket science or even aerodynamics.
5. The "old" application also mentioned above does not seem to be accessing all of the same data. I can't begin to think why but I don't think that is how it should be. If it doesn't work it should not be on the web and if it is supposed to work then it should work correctly. There should be only one database that these programs are creating queries for.

For me, the bottom line contains these summary recommendations:
1. EAA should do a better job of defining the requirements for the user interface before even starting to develop the app. Then it should, before releasing it, check if those requirements were met.
2. EAA should use basic IT engineering such that the performance of the web application is not so slow as to suggest to the user that something is broken.
3. EAA should use basic IT quality control to ensure that anything that should not be seen is not seen. This means having a good development environment with development, test and "production" environments. Only the production environment should be visible to the public. Last year's stuff should be deleted if it is not supposed to be there.
4. The search function should default to full text on title, presenter and subject at a bare minimum. Or if you want more work, do it like my mail program and offer choices how to narrow it. Returning too much is better than not returning anything.

Again, sorry to be so negative but EAA usually has better standards and it certainly should.
hh

Edit: This time, the search on "norris" and "Norris" worked as it should. Earlier tonight it did not.
BTW, Avast is saying it is blocking two infections on this site: some kind of "client script". It is a Java Script issue. That is very rare on this OS X system. Might be worth a look, yes?

[Hal Bryan]

Hi Howard - Thanks for the detailed and insightful feedback.

A few quick responses - forgive me if I don't have the time to go into any greater detail, but it's just that time of year...!


1. The performance of the web application is dialup speed when adding to my itinerary. I hate to imagine why so I won't speculate. When it finally says it added to my itinerary there is no obvious way to return to where I was in the list. Yes, I know that a simple "back" works, but good application design does not hide navigation.

We're investigating the performance issues, and have plans to improve the navigation. Unfortunately, this feature took a lot longer to complete than our development partner anticipated, so we elected to launch it sooner than later; launching it with optimized performance and navigation would do no good if it doesn't happen until August. This was a simple case of the ever-present compromise in software. Better have something that's usable, if a bit slow, than nothing at all, with plenty of time to improve and respond to feedback after convention.


2. I can't find a way to print the entire schedule or a query result. Personally, I would not do that, but my friend Jack Norris asked me how to do it and I could not.

While you can print your personal itinerary, there is no way to print all of the thousands of events in the calendar. This isn't something we considered to be a reasonable user scenario. Anyone who wants a hard copy can get one for free in our Visitors Guide or in the daily AirVenture Today newspaper.


3. The search is not working very well. I could not find anything under Jack's last name or "propellers" or "propellors" and yet there are four forums with that last name, two from Jack and two from Joe. The iPhone app finds them. There are even more with the prop subject.

I can't reproduce this problem - the searches work properly for me, except when searching for "propellors" - the search doesn't support alternative spellings, and our style guide dictates that we use the common and accepted "propeller." Otherwise, as I said, the searches you suggested are working fine for me.


4. The iPhone app is much better but I see from the comments above that it has issues, too. That app appears to come from Sporty's and I welcome their assistance but EAA should do better on their official site.

There's really only one issue outlined, and that is that the forum times aren't displayed in the master list, just in the details for the individual item. This is a feature that was added in the update that is in the queue, currently waiting for Apple to start their approval process. Also, just FYI, while Sporty's developed the app last year and the year before, this year they're supporting us as a sponsor, and we're doing the app ourselves along with a software vendor.


5. The "old" application also mentioned above does not seem to be accessing all of the same data. I can't begin to think why but I don't think that is how it should be.

This isn't true. The app draws from the exact same database as the web. The only difference is that the app stores the data offline (which is a must have requirement on the convention grounds) so it is only as current as the most recent update - we're planning on pushing updates frequently over the next couple of weeks, then just as needed during the event, hopefully no more than twice a day to minimize user annoyance with the notifications.


EAA should use basic IT quality control to ensure that anything that should not be seen is not seen. This means having a good development environment with development, test and "production" environments. Only the production environment should be visible to the public.

That's exactly what we've done. Personally, I spent more than 10 years in Test Engineering at the largest software company in the world, leading teams, training software testers, authoring best practices, etc. Obviously, we knew that the performance of the itinerary piece wasn't ideal, but, as I said, better something usable now, than to wait until August for something "perfect" (not that there's any such thing in software...) We have the three environments just as you laid out, and only the production environment is visible to the public. I can't imagine why you're implying otherwise.


Last year's stuff should be deleted if it is not supposed to be there.

I don't understand what you mean by this.


The search function should default to full text on title, presenter and subject at a bare minimum.

It does.

Thanks again for the feedback!

Regards,

Hal

[gbrasch]

Hal, at the risk of sounding like a suck a**, (but what do I care, Im retired) lots of us out here appreciate the work you do and your timely responses to our concerns. Glenn

[Hal Bryan]

Hal, at the risk of sounding like a suck a**, (but what do I care, Im retired) lots of us out here appreciate the work you do and your timely responses to our concerns. Glenn

Many thanks, Glenn! And I don't think that makes you sound like any kind of suck...!

I'm glad for feedback of all kinds, and for the chance to share additional insights from behind the scenes.

[jjhoneck]

Where is the EAA Airventure app for Android this year? The only one in the Play Store is from 2011.

[Hal Bryan]

The app hasn't been formally released for any platform yet. I was doing final acceptance testing on the Android version today, and sent it back to the developers for one more fix. As soon as the final versions are available on both platforms, you'll know - we'll be announcing it everywhere, believe me. :)

[rleffler]

Is there a way to sync My Plans across multiple iOS devices? It doesn't appear that data is being replicated via iCloud.

[Hal Bryan]

Hi Bob -

Not for this year. That's something we'll definitely look at for next year.

- Hal

[Howard Handelman]

Hal, I'm struggling with how this forum app handles responding to responses to quotes so forgive the boldface - I'm not shouting, just trying to make it easier to see the authorship.
Howard

While you can print your personal itinerary, there is no way to print all of the thousands of events in the calendar. This isn't something we considered to be a reasonable user scenario. Anyone who wants a hard copy can get one for free in our Visitors Guide or in the daily AirVenture Today newspaper.
I am with you on this, but Jack was trying to see where there might be an opening for an additional presentation and the existing access method made that extremely difficult. Generating a PDF might have solved the problem (if one accepts that it is a problem:).) I could not find a way to search for all presentations in a given Forum location, for example. Maybe I was just not clever enough, but see the next item.

I can't reproduce this problem - the searches work properly for me, except when searching for "propellors" - the search doesn't support alternative spellings, and our style guide dictates that we use the common and accepted "propeller." Otherwise, as I said, the searches you suggested are working fine for me.
I am OK with not supporting wrong spelling. I do think you need to look at how "advanced search" works. I don't think that it is doing what most people would expect. It does not find anything within 100 miles of KOSH or OSH with keyword "prop" or "Norris" or "norris" (different tries, not complex syntax) but it does find events if you leave the keyword blank. Actually, I was trying to filter the search for AirVenture, not the rest of the world.

This isn't true. The app draws from the exact same database as the web. The only difference is that the app stores the data offline (which is a must have requirement on the convention grounds) so it is only as current as the most recent update - we're planning on pushing updates frequently over the next couple of weeks, then just as needed during the event, hopefully no more than twice a day to minimize user annoyance with the notifications.
Regarding last year's app with this year's data, if you go to: http://www.eaaapps.org/Default.aspx and click on "forums" you will see that it is not complete. At least it does not appear to be. Even today I'm seeing more information this way than before. The data is either not from the same source or uses significantly different query terms. IMHO. This is the link that was provided earlier in this thread and why I said either have it work right or take it off. It is hidden, but it is still public.

That's exactly what we've done. Personally, I spent more than 10 years in Test Engineering at the largest software company in the world, leading teams, training software testers, authoring best practices, etc. Obviously, we knew that the performance of the itinerary piece wasn't ideal, but, as I said, better something usable now, than to wait until August for something "perfect" (not that there's any such thing in software...) We have the three environments just as you laid out, and only the production environment is visible to the public. I can't imagine why you're implying otherwise.
Hal, I agree with those who are thanking you for your efforts and I respect your experience and competence. I'm sorry if I implied otherwise. I can only tell what is in front of me and like most fallible humans with incomplete information, I sometimes draw incorrect conclusions. You have been candid in stating the situation and that is good enough for me. The appearance of last year's app and the flaws in this year's prompted this.


http://eaaforums.org/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Howard Handelman http://eaaforums.org/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?p=42659#post42659)
Last year's stuff should be deleted if it is not supposed to be there.
I don't understand what you mean by this.
It was about the old app - see above, please. It is not clear to me from your responses if it is even supposed to be there, let alone expected to work right.

Thanks again for the feedback!

Regards,

Hal

One more thing: I struggle to understand the idea of not "formally" releasing something when it is available on the App Store. This is a language issue, not an IT one.
hh

[Hal Bryan]

Hi Howard -

Thanks for the response and the clarification. I see that there was some real miscues between us. Forgive me, as this will be really brief, but I want to get your points addressed as quickly as possible.

I see now that you were talking about the eaaapps.org site, at least in part, not the iOS app - totally misunderstanding on my part.

That site used to house our full AirVenture schedule until this year. It was a never a link we gave out directly, rather you were taken there (or data was pulled from there) as needed from and by the old airventure.org site. It still exists strictly for our internal use to be able to capture legacy data as we've migrated to the new site - I didn't catch that the link had been given out in this thread. There's not much harm in that, other than the confusion it generates when people find their way, but there's no reason anyone should be going there.

That said, I see the confusion with search. While everything lives in one giant database, we do draw a line of distinction between the year-round events calendar and the AirVenture calendar, just because of the sheer volume of data in each. If you click the AirVenture tab at the top of the site, then click Schedule, that's where you'll find those events that are exclusively part of the AirVenture calendar. We segregate them to, as I said, make the data more manageable. The search by distance stuff within the AirVenture calendar is a little wonky, because, while the rest of the calendar goes by city and state, AirVenture events are located by building. We should have just turned off the advanced search on that calendar, because, at the city/state or airport ID level, they're all happening in the "same place" - Oshkosh, WI at KOSH, even though one event might be in Warbirds, another down at Ultralights. If you'll search within the AirVenture calendar, I think you'll see the results you're looking for.

Again, I appreciate the clarification, and also your more personal feedback! Apologies for my part of the misunderstandings!

- Hal

P.S. To us, a formal launch means we're telling everyone about it - posting links on our site, blasting the word out in social media, our e-Hotline newsletter, etc. The 1.0 version of the iOS app on the app store went live somewhat unexpectedly. How is this possible? Apple manually approves all app submissions, a process we were told takes up to two weeks. In addition, they also told us that "everybody" gets their app rejected the first time around, but they won't tell you much about the criteria until you try. So, we hit a solid plateau with version 1.0 and handed it off to Apple, knowing that we'd have additional updates to release before convention, but needing to know ASAP what sorts of changes Apple would require before they'd approve it. We needed to know what issues we'd have to address in time to address them.

So, we handed it off and got back to work on versions 1.1 and 1.2, and then, suddenly, 5 days later, the app was live in the app store - a very unusual first-time approval. No harm done, plus it made it a lot easier for us to reach out to staff and key volunteers to get them using and providing feedback on the app, before the full blown launch (it's somewhat complicated to share a pre-release version of an app without it being in the app store). A small number of "real people" (non-staff) found the app organically in Apple's app store and have been using it, which is great. Version 1.1 should go live by tomorrow, and the second it does, we'll get Apple started on approving 1.2 which adds a few additional features that are only relevant starting on the 28th. :)

I hope this helps clarify things a bit further.

[Jeff Point]

Is there a way to sync My Plans across multiple iOS devices? It doesn't appear that data is being replicated via iCloud.
And closely related- the app should sync with the full website as well as across mobile devices. Like many I do my pre-Oshkosh planning on a desktop and/or tablet but only carry my phone with me at the event. It's a real pain to have to do all my searching and planning on this little iPhone screen!

[Mayhemxpc]

Hal,

Is it intended that the iPhone app and the iPad app will synch with each other…so "My Plan" and "My Notes" will appear on both devices?

Chris

[TedK]

Hal,

Is it intended that the iPhone app and the iPad app will synch with each other…so "My Plan" and "My Notes" will appear on both devices?

Chris


(please say Yes, please say yes, please say yes...). :-) Ted

[Hal Bryan]

(please say Yes, please say yes, please say yes...). :-) Ted

Sorry guys - not this year. This is something we'll look at for next year. It was just beyond the scope of what was achievable for this year.

[CarlOrton]

Hal, I mentioned this in my previous thread, but on the iPhone app, I still can't search for presenter names. At least, not Monnett. That may be in the queue with the "show the times" update with Apple, but just wanted to let you know that the searches still aren't fully cooked yet.

[Jim Heffelfinger]

Hal, I know you are hiding here..... Any word on the Android app release date? The iOS guys get a tease at least.....

[Hal Bryan]

Hal, I know you are hiding here..... Any word on the Android app release date? The iOS guys get a tease at least.....

Hey Jim - I thought we were going to release it yesterday, but I had to go and find a bug in my testing. The developers worked on it overnight, and I'm expecting a new version from them any time now. As soon as I get it, I'll make sure that they fixed it, and then we'll push it to Google Play and Amazon. I'm told that their approval process only takes a few hours, but I don't know that with certainty - I just know it's less than the 10 days - 2 weeks required by Apple...!

[MEdwards]

Hi Hal, got the iPad updated version of the app last night and finally figured out what you meant by accepting updates of the data. The app froze after the data updates came in, but restarting it fixed the problem and all seems current. Good job, looks real good.

I notice the map that comes up and shows you where the event is located is oriented North Up. What a revolutionary idea!

[jeftec]

I have looked through this thread carefully so I hope I didn't miss something, but what was the impetus to move away from the schedule as it existed last year? (eaaapps.org). Simple, quick and allowed you to maneuver as you wished and allowed a compact print out of the events you chose. I'm trying to use the new "master schedule" for this years event and am about to give up. Was the old system not usable? I see there are some events on it, but very little. I know the entire world seems connected at the smart phone, but pencil and paper ain't a bad option either. Just curious.

[Hal Bryan]

Hal, I know you are hiding here..... Any word on the Android app release date? The iOS guys get a tease at least.....

Jim -

The app is live now!

http://airventure.org/app

[jjhoneck]

Thanks!

[troy_m]

I agree with you jeftec, I liked the eaaapps.org site too. I don't have a smart phone, so the pencil and paper method works very well for me.