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qxev
11-07-2012, 05:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iirLl8I5GiE

Hal Bryan
11-07-2012, 07:49 AM
Unfortunately, YouTube has blocked that video (at least here in the U.S.) due to copyright violations. Is there another copy somewhere?

qxev
11-07-2012, 12:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VAMZCiW6jA&feature=youtu.be

martymayes
11-07-2012, 01:53 PM
I was thinking Norm is well underway on his second project. And third, and fourth.....

qxev
11-08-2012, 01:13 AM
The main problem of easy planes is high breakdown rate on landing
statistics of accidents of easy planes at the stage "calling-contact-run"

http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/32491525_28797698.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

The statistics of flight incidents in hydroaviation of Canada, shows that over 77 % of these incidents occur around a seadrome at performance of takes off and landing and maneuvering the Usual reasons – collisions with floating and underwater subjects and obstacles, the wrong assessment the pilot of a wind and waves of conditions and distances to water.

qxev
11-08-2012, 01:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHmTanno0E&feature=player_embedded

but there are also other flying cars, much safer on landing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC8MP6uOiQ&feature=related

The FIRST Way of increase of safety on landing is the choice of the SCHEME providing the smallest landing speeds:

The FIRST requirement for "the family plane"

controllability on SMALL (landing) speed

what does it mean PRACTICALLY?

it means that at a design of the plane there should be "a wide plane" (a big wing) which creates BIG carrying power - at low horizontal speed
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/25205132_72818097.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

Landing speed: 65 km/h
Maximum 320 km/h
Max. take-off weight: 600 kg
Empty weight: 250 kg
Engine: Rotax 912 S
Fuel consumption: 15 l / h
:78800 EURO
... the unusual configuration of Bateleur brings a number of advantages in comparison with usual the high-plan or a lowplane the winged aircraft....

this configuration is very similar to wing-in-ground

qxev
11-08-2012, 04:31 AM
In 1912 the plane of a design of T.Richards Prior to the beginning of the First World War the plane rose in air flew 128 h, the people who did not have experience of control of airplane could pilot it. It was noted that on it it was possible to increase safely an angle of attack to 30 °.... Thanks to a ring-shaped wing with small load of the area the plane was capable to pancake smoothly in default the engine or other malfunctions in flight. This remarkable feature saved life to several pilots testing it.http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/17610040_34579859.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-08-2012, 04:40 AM
Jack Jones (Jack M. Jones), the inventor of the concept of it such as the aircraft under the name Geobat and the designer of his two working models.
The first the Popular Science magazine paid attention to Jones's works (April issue for 1997). This note drew attention of the Pentagon which sent with an inspection trip to a dzhonsovsky creative workshop in dense forests of Georgia of three engineers of the naval research laboratory (NRL)


«three-segment circular wing» (3WCP — Three Wing Circular Planform), and in 2000 was included into number of 10 nominees of competition under the aegis of the Discovery magazine on the best technological innovation.
What declared advantages of the scheme offered by Jones?
First of all — significant carrying power at small weight of all design.
Structural integrity of Geobat surpasses usual aviation schemes that increases durability, reduces level of vibrations, facilitates design and construction of such aircraft.
Affirms that Geobat possesses fine maneuverability and controllability, is very steady in flight, is poorly appreciable on radar screens and easily adapts under "invisible being".
quite solid Institute of a science and technology of Japanese prefecture of Nar (Nara Institute of Science and Technology) became interested in it.
The institute obtained the license for Geobat and created group under the direction of William Riken (William D. Rieken) for research of prospects of technology...
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/77999051_33806770.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

Joe LaMantia
11-08-2012, 08:49 AM
I know that these designs work and maybe more efficient, but they just don't look "right". Maybe they'll "take-off" commercially, if the economy picks-up and we get some younger guys interested in this airframe design.

Joe
:cool:

qxev
11-08-2012, 09:28 AM
I know that these designs work and maybe more efficient, but they just don't look "right". Maybe they'll "take-off" commercially, if the economy picks-up and we get some younger guys interested in this airframe design.

Joe
:cool:

we want to collect some principles for one flying car. as it is done by Bert Rutan

Bored in retirement, legendary aerospace engineer Burt Rutan is working on a new project, a high-speed winged boat that can double as a seaplane, so he can fly between lakes and rivers near his new home in Coeur d'Alene, a lakeside resort in northern Idaho.
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2011/11/burt-rutans-boat-plane-retirem.html

But when Burt Rutan says "seaplane", you know he's not thinking of the propeller-powered pontoon planes that have been flown for decades. Instead, his plans draw inspiration from large wing Russian ships or "ekranoplans" built during the Cold War (see below).

http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/53636142_12053732.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-08-2012, 09:33 AM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/53514840_3839716.jpg (http://impic.ru/)planes of short take off and landing, from Bert Rutan.

all of them have the scheme " tandem wing" (option of a rhombus of a boxwing)

qxev
11-08-2012, 09:49 AM
if to connect Box Wing together with Wing-in-Ground, such flying device will turn out approximatelyhttp://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/27047139_83995644.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-08-2012, 01:52 PM
Design: Ikelos
By: Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, Loughborough University (UK)
Description: A team from Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University and Loughborough University, United Kingdom took second place. Their joint effort resulted in “Ikelos,” an aircraft featuring a box-wing design with fans powered by a rotary diesel engine. This uniquely designed aircraft allows pilots to take super-short takeoffs and landings.

http://www.architectswanderlust.com/2010/03/the-arbalest-close-air-support-cascoin-vstol-aircraft/
This unique design allows to reach super short takes off and landing.
The 24-person the design group consisted of equal number of students from Loughborough Department in aviation and automobile equipment and Virginia Tech's Department space … the group worked as virtual team throughout the most part of the project.

http://www.powershow.com/view/aa2db-ZDAxO/Ikelos_flash_ppt_presentation#.T-N33Be2_kY

http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0811/92933563_94574925.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

if to add below a wide wing, at us wing-in-ground with box wing will turn out

box wing-in-ground

qxev
11-09-2012, 12:48 AM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0911/12155473_72020685.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

bearing fuselage + box wing

http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0911/10514732_90083025.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-09-2012, 02:32 AM
bearing fuselage with a usual wing
https://vimeo.com/5364455

qxev
11-09-2012, 02:38 AM
bearing fuselage + box wing (box wing in ground)

http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/0911/12389832_71712829.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-10-2012, 02:34 PM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/1011/5621461_28591512.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-10-2012, 02:36 PM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/1011/72890700_40886291.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-12-2012, 02:40 PM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/1211/60875748_72443269.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

sense of connection
airplane + WIG

consists in creating on landing a powerful airbag...


which gradually decreases and smoothly lowers our flying car before contact to a water surface

qxev
11-13-2012, 03:50 AM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/1311/58759249_14158382.jpg (http://impic.ru/)

qxev
11-13-2012, 04:01 AM
http://impic.ru/uploads/2012/1311/33723895_28424527.jpg (http://impic.ru/)
http://www.idintos.eu/?page_id=285

qxev
11-13-2012, 11:43 AM
it will be possible to you it is interesting to look at conversation here
http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/bush-float-flying/11534-paul-weston-sea-era-3.html

qxev
02-08-2013, 04:56 PM
http://www.picshare.ru/uploads/130209/hYXl6v2TA2.jpg (http://www.picshare.ru/view/1164724/)


http://www.picshare.ru/uploads/130209/Av43nGifTM.jpg (http://www.picshare.ru/view/1164937/)

Floatsflyer
02-08-2013, 07:09 PM
Now that one makes my knees go weak!

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02-09-2013, 04:37 PM
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qxev
03-03-2013, 12:11 AM
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