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Nieuport 24
07-16-2012, 12:43 PM
The front office said I should post here. I am looking for know-how or plans to make a vintage looking airplane seat for my full size Nieuport 24 project. Should look something like this. http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Mil...7ghst1_cu2.jpg (http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Miller/render/Nieuport/n17ghst1_cu2.jpg) Looks like bent plywood with hold drilled out, etc. Any help would be appreciated.
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vaflier
07-16-2012, 04:31 PM
Laminate very thin layers of ply veneer over a form. Glue each layer and clamp them all together overnight to dry. They other method would be to steam some thin pywood and bend over a form and leave to dry. This would not be as strong and may delaminate due to the moisture.

GoldenAge
07-16-2012, 11:15 PM
That appears to be a computer rendering.....I would not put too much historical credit in that unless you can validate it with another source.
I agree with the above approaches for reaching a vintage "look". However, Aircraft ply will not delaminate with moisture, so either approach will work fine. To form plywood, it can also be soaked in ammonia to soften the fibers without compromising the strength. Aircraft ply specifications loosely state plywood placed in in boiling water for 3 hours survives without delamination... is probably sufficient.

Nieuport 24
07-17-2012, 07:33 AM
I guess 1/16" plies? 45degree or 90 degree plywood? Is 1/2" thick enough? Do I laminate one layer and clamp, at a time, or laminate 8 layers and bend all 8 around the form and clamp? Drilling holes, before or after it is formed? Would a hole saw tend to shred the ply on the outside? Also, on the attachment to the base (3/4" ply?), maybe 3 L brackets on the outside evenly spaced?

GoldenAge
07-17-2012, 12:06 PM
That looks like a pretty big radius. You should be able to easily do it with single 1/16" 90deg 3 ply. No reason to make it thicker or stronger or heavier as it is just a seat back and the strength comes from the tube frame structure. Cut the holes before you form it. Use a scrap piece of wood to back the ply for the hole saw process to eliminate the break out on the back side.

Nieuport 24
07-18-2012, 06:10 AM
thank you. I will report on progress

GoldenAge
07-19-2012, 08:34 AM
thank you. I will report on progress
That would be great. We would love to hear about and see progress. Photos would be great.
Allow me to apologize for my comment about "computer rendering". This was a hasty judgement. After carefully reviewing the drawing I see that it is a truly stunning piece of art. With such detail, an obviously talented artist must have created this piece from historical information. Do you know who drew this?

Nieuport 24
07-19-2012, 01:16 PM
google: -- nieuport 17 virtual -- and you will see in the results "Mark Miller blah blah blah. Anyway he is the guy. My next mission is to figure out how to show photos here. I have been collecting photos.

GoldenAge
07-19-2012, 04:27 PM
Nuport 24- images are inserted after you click reply, a line of icons appear above the text area. One looks like a picture of a tree. Click it and insert images.

Nieuport 24
07-27-2012, 11:00 AM
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Nuport 24- images are inserted after you click reply, a line of icons appear above the text area. One looks like a picture of a tree. Click it and insert images.

Nieuport 24
08-15-2012, 07:00 AM
2371 The seat back is orthogonal to the seat, should be more like 100 or 110 degrees. 2370