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Paul Hayden
05-07-2012, 01:01 PM
Second round of tests. I'm looking at a single embedded player to handle all device types to simplify things even farther. If anybody is available to hit this link and let me know
the following info that will be a huge help.

Device: pc/mac/phone
Operating system/version number of Device tested:
Browser and version number:
Internet connection used: Cable, DSL, cellular, something fancy your office has
Time tested:
Time zone tested from:
Issues encountered:

Thanks for the help.

Paul Hayden

FlyingRon
05-07-2012, 01:34 PM
I get a "We are unable to connect to the network" on the Firefox here at work. It's possible that it was blocked by the Textron corporate NetNanny. Does it use something other than the standard http/https ports?

PaulDow
05-07-2012, 01:35 PM
Hi Paul
It looks good, but as you say, there's not much motion although I did see a bird flying through.

Device: I figured I'd try the most incompatible device I have. The HP Touchpad
Operating system/version number of Device tested: WebOS 3.0.5
Browser and version number: Default browser
Internet connection used: Cable, DSL, cellular, something fancy your office has
Time tested: Cable 1Mbps
Time zone tested from: EDT
Issues encountered: buffered a couple times, but only lasted about 2 seconds.

Paul Hayden
05-07-2012, 02:26 PM
the PC/mac link should be a flash player stream it shouldn't have port related issues..but I'll look into it.

Rick Rademacher
05-07-2012, 02:29 PM
Using an I7 CPU with Win7 Pro and DSL at 4:40 P.M. EDT, I experienced a buffering message that appeared in the middle of the screen about every 2 seconds. Now, that would get annoying.

Paul Hayden
05-07-2012, 03:04 PM
it is a 500K stream which worries me a bit. we might have to back that down. in the meantime I'll look into different buffer settings.

MickYoumans
05-07-2012, 04:22 PM
Device: iPad 2
Operating system/version number of Device tested: iOS 4.3.3
Browser and version number: Safari
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 6:20 pm. 5/7/12
Time zone tested from: Eastern
Problems encountered:. None

Sirota
05-07-2012, 04:55 PM
Hi Paul, Didn't have any trouble, the view poped right up

Device: PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows 7
Browser and version number: IE 8.0
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 4:00pm local, 2300 Z
Time zone tested from: PST
Issues encountered: None

Bill
05-07-2012, 04:58 PM
Device: PC with AMD Phenom Quad Core
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows Vista Ultimate
Browser and version number: Firefox 12.
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 3:52 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: After one image, buffering dialog box appeared and application hung at that point. Have gone 10 minutes without an update.

Want me to try Linux?

Bill
05-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Device: PC with AMD Phenom Quad Core
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows Vista Ultimate
Browser and version number: IE Explorer (64 bit)
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 4:04 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: "We are unable to connect to the network. We apologize for the inconvenience," but www.discoveryworld.org (http://www.discoveryworld.org) loads OK.

Paul Hayden
05-07-2012, 05:31 PM
Bill, do you have the current version of flash player installed?
and feel free to try any OS or browser you feel like. The larger our trial data the better.

steve
05-07-2012, 05:57 PM
Device: PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Win 7 Home Premium
Browser and version number: Google Chrome
Internet connection used: Cable
Time tested: 1950
Time zone tested from: eastern
Issues encountered: none

Bill
05-07-2012, 06:41 PM
Bill, do you have the current version of flash player installed?
and feel free to try any OS or browser you feel like. The larger our trial data the better.

Firefox is OK with the latest version of flash. Sigh, I wish flash would just go away.

I'll try Fedora Linux later. I have to reboot since I have a dual-boot system.

Bill
05-07-2012, 06:52 PM
Device: PC with AMD Phenom Quad Core
Operating system/version number of Device tested: fedora 15
Browser and version number: Firefox 7.01.
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 5:50 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: None

danielfindling
05-07-2012, 06:52 PM
Mac running OS X
Eastern Std Time 8:50 p.m.
no issues on Safari
Cable Modem

TeenDoc
05-08-2012, 05:27 AM
Hi Paul,

Works just fine in my office PC Windows XP, my MacBook Pro OS 10.7 and my iPhone iOS 5.1.1

Paul Hayden
05-08-2012, 08:19 AM
cool. I think so far, so good.

Anybody have any Android phones or tablets they can try?

Brian Hartwick
05-08-2012, 09:54 AM
Android phone, HTC Evo on Sprint Network. Works great

Brian Hartwick
05-08-2012, 09:56 AM
Hey, I see grass growing!!! lol

Paul Hayden
05-08-2012, 10:03 AM
yep, tomorrow you can watch paint dry.
but this is very helpful guys.

Todd Ritzman
05-08-2012, 10:06 AM
Hey, I see grass growing!!! lol


You are welcome to come over and mow it.

Brian Hartwick
05-08-2012, 10:09 AM
Drying paint, my favorite. Glad to help,

MEdwards
05-08-2012, 04:09 PM
Device: PC, nothing fancy
Operating system/version number of Device tested: XP, latest (last!)
Browser and version number: Firefox 9.0.1, also tried IE 8.0.6001.18702, same result.
Internet connection used: Something fancy the office has. It's a government facility, has fast internet. Don't know more.
Time tested: 4pm
Time zone tested from: MDT
Issues encountered:"We are unable to connect to the network. We apologize for the inconvenience" Quite possibly blocked somehow by the IT department, but I was able to get through last year from work here. I remember there were some issues, but I got it to work.

Bill
05-08-2012, 09:52 PM
Device: Droid Razr Maxx
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Android 2.3.6
Browser and version number: Opera Moble 12.00
Internet connection used: 4G LTE
Time tested: 4:40 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: None

rawheels
05-09-2012, 06:37 AM
Device: Samsung Galaxy S
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Android
Browser and version number: Unknown
Internet connection used: Sprint 4G
Time tested: 5:30 PM
Time zone tested from: Eastern
Issues encountered: None

Paul Hayden
05-09-2012, 09:11 AM
cool. I'm feeling pretty good about this server setup.
next up on the list is figuring out if it can be streamed using http tunneling. I think thats going to solve the issue with the few people that haven't been able to connect. The server is streaming on a goofy port number.

Paul Hayden
05-09-2012, 12:36 PM
could one of you guys who was having trouble try it again and let me know if it works this time?

MEdwards
05-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Bingo! Tried it again as requested. Success with both Firefox and IE. Thanks.

Paul Hayden
05-09-2012, 03:22 PM
Lol. Thanks Todd. I was kidding about the paint. But so be it. And I see our mascot Deeraf is making an appearance.

Bill Greenwood
05-09-2012, 04:54 PM
Initially, had trouble with this running slow on a computer set up at a business.
Then I got home and tried it on my 4096 Dell and had almost no problems. I am using an edelbrock manifold with a digel buffer and a dedion back up over mozilla firefox.

Paul Hayden
05-09-2012, 05:27 PM
Lol. That's an impressive weed wacker :)

CheckerBird
05-10-2012, 04:10 PM
Device: PC (quad-core i7)
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Browser and version number: Firefox version ? and IE version 9
Internet connection used: 20Mbps Fiberoptic
Time tested: 17:05 local, 22:05 zulu
Time zone tested from: CDT
Issues encountered: occasional "buffering" for a split second under IE9, none under Firefox. Firefox seems to render a slightly cleaner picture than IE.

Additional Notes: I'm even behind a chain of http proxy servers and an iPrism web filter appliance and it still works! Many times, streaming videos often cannot make it thru this proxy chain since the video plugins of the browser either ignore, or deliberately try to circumvent the browser's proxy settings, and I have no direct or NAT'ed route to the public Internet for this PC so all web traffic either obeys the proxy, or it don't go... period.

tomposatko
05-10-2012, 06:41 PM
Device: PC, Mac, Android phone, iOS device, other: Dell Laptop PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows XP
Browser and version number: Firefox 8.0.1
Internet connection used: Cable, DSL, cellular, something fancy your office has DSL
Time tested: 20:30 EST
Time zone tested from: EST
Issues encountered: Absolutely none; worked like a charm, first time. Great pic of the paint can!

Paul Hayden
05-11-2012, 08:08 AM
Awesome. I'm glad there are so few if any issues. We were shooting for a much more universal distribution method free of all the version and plugin issues.

Sawdust
05-16-2012, 04:39 PM
I used the webcams extensively last year, even while I was at OSH, and they were great. So I'm impressed you're working to make them even better! Love the idea of being able to stream from the webcams on my android phone.

Device: PC, Mac, Android phone, iOS device, other: Dell PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Win7
Browser and version number: Chrome 18.0
Internet connection used: Cable, DSL, cellular, something fancy your office has: AT&T Uverse 24Mb
Time tested: 5pm
Time zone tested from: CDT
Issues encountered: None. Buffered for maybe 2 seconds, then ran smooth for the 30 minutes I had it up.Device: PC, Mac, Android phone, iOS device, other: Android Samsung S2 Skyrocket
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Android 2.3
Browser and version number: Android Web v 2.3.6
Internet connection used: Cable, DSL, cellular, something fancy your office has: Home Wifi WL-N connected to AT&T Uverse 24Mb
Time tested: 5pm
Time zone tested from: CDT
Issues encountered: Ran fine with the phone on my wifi, no buffering at all, smooth video. Then I turned off the wifi and tried it over the 3G cell connection, worked intermittently, frequent buffering.

MEdwards
05-16-2012, 05:24 PM
There was some discussion last year of integrating video and audio. Don't remember any details. How will that work this year?

Paul Hayden
05-29-2012, 09:54 AM
the current plan is to have the EAA Radio announcement audio over the Airshow video as it was last year, the other cameras will not have audio encoded directly with them. The ATC feeds are being provided by LiveATC.net and will be available as they were last year. I have to verify with Hal, but I believe the cams are being embedded into the webpage and it might be possible to have a liveatc.net player built in the page as well.

And a huge thanks to all those who helped beta test the stream. As of yesterday our one month trial of the server software ran out, so I think we are going to call it a successful test and work towards rolling out this system for the show.

Marc_CYBW
05-29-2012, 05:34 PM
could not connect via mac or ipad.
marc

Paul Hayden
05-30-2012, 08:14 AM
yeah, We took the test stream down a few days ago. I should have noted that in the first post.

MEdwards
06-21-2012, 12:13 PM
the current plan is to have the EAA Radio announcement audio over the Airshow video as it was last year, ...Thanks, Paul, for getting your excellent video out and tested so early before AirVenture. Lots of people will enjoy watching it.

Is there a plan for testing the audio over the Airshow video before the event? Reason I ask is, I'm unable to get EAA Radio to work directly, and I'd like to make sure some of my friends and associates will be able to watch _and hear_ the airshow when it's broadcast. Thanks.

Mike E

codetalker
06-21-2012, 12:50 PM
Thanks, Paul, for getting your excellent video out and tested so early before AirVenture. Lots of people will enjoy watching it.

Is there a plan for testing the audio over the Airshow video before the event? Reason I ask is, I'm unable to get EAA Radio to work directly, and I'd like to make sure some of my friends and associates will be able to watch _and hear_ the airshow when it's broadcast. Thanks.

Mike E

Mike:

If you are still having issues getting EAA Radio to stream, I can help try to help you out. Obviously, there is little I can do to help you at work, as firewalls and other security measures could be at play, but at home I'm sure we can "get it working for you". You can email me directly at codetalker@eaaradio.net

Thanks!
Tommy Balistreri
EAA Radio - Station Manager

Paul Hayden
06-21-2012, 01:20 PM
yeah, for Streaming Media its a 100% new system from the encoders all the way to the server and server software. With the unique set of cirumstances we have to work with its likely that the first tests with audio would be from the Theater in the Woods feed hopefully a week out from the show. Audio on the airshow encoder can't be tested until EAA radio is live and we have access to the tower to install our gear. Hopefully that will be a day or two before the official start of the show.

I do plan on opening up a beta stream as soon as we can to try test the final config and to load test the server a bit. I will post back here when that happens.

MEdwards
06-21-2012, 02:27 PM
Yes, indeed, you do have a "unique set of circumstances." Thanks, and good luck.

Paul Hayden
07-05-2012, 12:09 PM
hey guys, first post updated with another test link if you would be so kind as to check it out for me and report as last time, that would help big time. This time, no turkeys, or paint drying...its actually installed on the airport grounds.

wyoranch
07-05-2012, 12:35 PM
Ipad3 using safari No issues

MEdwards
07-05-2012, 01:31 PM
An ant's eye view of Oshkosh! No problems.

Device: PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: XP
Browser and version number: Firefox 9.0.1
Internet connection used: High speed to work network, firewalls and all
Time tested: 1:30pm Thursday 5 Jul
Time zone tested from: MDT
Issues encountered: None

Bill
07-05-2012, 01:47 PM
I see the leaning tower of ???

Device: PC with AMD Phenom Quad Core
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows Vista
Browser and version number: Firefox 13.01.
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 12:45 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: None

Paul Hayden
07-05-2012, 02:00 PM
Ha!
yeah they lay the wayfinding towers down when its not show time. but it makes it a hell of a lot easier to work on the top of the tower. :) they should be upright shortly, and the cameras available shortly thereafter.

rawheels
07-05-2012, 02:27 PM
Works great, even behind a normally restrictive firewall.

Device: PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows 7 Enterprise v6.1
Browser and version number: I.E. 8.0
Internet connection used: something fancy your office has
Time tested: 4:20
Time zone tested from: EDT
Issues encountered: none

Marc_CYBW
07-05-2012, 02:27 PM
Works fine
MacBook Pro
O/s 10.7.4
Chrome 20.0

MEdwards
07-05-2012, 03:53 PM
Before we were watching paint dry. Now we're literally watching grass grow! And I think I did see a turkey walk by, though it may have been a volunteer. Just kidding!

Bill
07-05-2012, 04:56 PM
Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Android Ice Cream Sandwich
Browser and version number: Opera Mobile
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 1:25 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: None

FlyingJosh
07-05-2012, 04:57 PM
A-OK for me

Device: ipad2
Operating system/version number of Device tested: iOS5.1.1
Browser and version number: Safari for iPad
Internet connection used: FiOS 15mbps down, wifi
Time tested: 6:50pm Thursday 5 Jul
Time zone tested from: EDT
Issues encountered: None

Bill
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
I can see the blades of grass blowing in the wind. That's something we don't have around here.

Device: PC Acer Aspire 6930
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Fedora 14
Browser and version number: Firefox 3.6
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 4:05 PM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: None

Paul Hayden
07-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Before we were watching paint dry. Now we're literally watching grass grow! And I think I did see a turkey walk by, though it may have been a volunteer. Just kidding! Lol, you should just hope Todd and I don't do a late night talk show. That might be worse as you have already gotten a hint at our sense of humor. :)

Sirota
07-05-2012, 05:57 PM
Looks Good at 2350Z.

Device: PC
OS: Windows 7
Browser: Ie8
Connection: DSL

mikeno
07-05-2012, 08:16 PM
Device: iMac
Operating system/version number of Device tested: OS X 10.7
Browser and version number: Firefox 13.0.1
Internet connection used: Cable
Time tested: 0217Z
Time zone tested from: Central
Issues encountered: None

Paul Hayden
07-06-2012, 07:05 AM
excellent. We are also going to attempt a software based live stream with audio to simulate the theater in the woods and airshow streams. Although you will probably end up seeing more turkeys, the paint dried already.

Sawdust
07-06-2012, 02:38 PM
One (very minor) comment. With last year's stream viewer, I could resize the view window, or keep it full screen on my second monitor (which I did for days on end). With this viewer, it's only one size, and it snaps out of full screen if I do anything at all on my other monitor. Image quality is great, and very consistent. Been running it since late last night and while working today, haven't seen it hang up or buffer at all. Great Job Paul!

Device: Dell AlienWare PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Win7
Browser and version number: Chrome 19.0
Internet connection used: AT&T U-Verse 18MB with WL-N
Time tested: all day on July 6
Time zone tested from: Central
Issues encountered: None

Paul Hayden
07-06-2012, 08:36 PM
Interesting. I'll take a look at the embedded player code and see if there are any resize options.

Paul Hayden
07-07-2012, 06:55 AM
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Marc_CYBW
07-07-2012, 07:39 AM
Works fine when you remove the last 4 characters from the link :-)
MacBook pro, Chrome, OS 10.7.4, Cable

spongebobiwan
07-07-2012, 07:44 AM
^ditto. iMac OS X Lion 10.7.4 Safari/Chrome/Fiirefox; iPhone 4s iOS 5.1.1 Safari

Paul Hayden
07-07-2012, 07:57 AM
Oops. Forgot that space in there. It's fixed. Sorry about that.

You guys are getting audio too right? It's a bugger to find the right settings for iOS.

spongebobiwan
07-07-2012, 08:07 AM
Yes, Paul. I'm getting audio on both OS and on iOS.

Paul Hayden
07-07-2012, 11:06 AM
Woohoo! Happy dance!Now we just need to wait till the towers go up.

Bill
07-07-2012, 11:22 AM
Both video and audio.

Device: PC with AMD Phenom Quad Core
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows Vista
Browser and version number: Firefox 13.01.
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 10:21 AM
Time zone tested from: MST (never changes)
Issues encountered: None

Sawdust
07-07-2012, 11:30 AM
Looks and sounds great! I have both streams (tower cam and your video/audio feed) running simultaneously - very consistent, zero buffering!

MEdwards
07-07-2012, 11:56 AM
Video & audio good. Both feeds simultaneously. PC w Win7 and DSL. Full screen option works fine too. Thanks.

dmbleess
07-07-2012, 12:58 PM
Both streams work as advertised with an expected exception.

No version of firefox mobile will stream because of the flash based media. That includes beta and aurora nightly update. There is no support for mobile flash in firefox mobile.

Had to use the plain label default mobile browser (Opera based?) and that works fine.

All other browsers I tried including, PC Firefox, MSIE, Chrome, latest releases and all the Firefox PC betas
All operating systems, XP32, Win7 Home Prem -64, Android 2.3.4 "ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich)"

Cox internet

Strong 3g isn't enough throughput to stream smoothly for more than a few seconds every twenty of buffering.

Jim Rosenow
07-07-2012, 03:23 PM
Hi, Paul

All works great over DSL on the following:

Laptop with Ubuntu 12.4/Mozilla
Xoom using included browser (Firefox shows black screen)
DroidX using included browser (Firefox shows black screen)

Xoom and Droid also work over 3G with no buffering!! Good job!

Jim

Paul Hayden
07-07-2012, 06:42 PM
Mobile Firefox will not support flash, nor will it support Html5, so we found one browser/device combo out of 100's that isn't going to work. The stream starts as flash, but rolls to html5 if its not able to play that pretty much ensures reasonably modern desktops and laptops will work with no issue and about 74% of all mobile smart phones and the majority of all iOS devices.
3G connections, we really had no plan to attempt to support, its really more of accident that it occasionally works. We have DSL lines installed with a reliable 500K up and we are pushing video as high as it will go. In order to support slower cell connections we would have to stream at multiple bitrates, that would end up being expensive. We had also figured nobody would want to put that big of a dent in the data plan and that specific user group would be a very small number of people.

our over all goal was to eliminate all the plug ins, version issues and configuration issues we had last year and to provide as much iOS and Android support as possible.

Zojirushi
07-08-2012, 02:18 PM
AirVenture 2012 Streaming Media - Beta Testing Help Needed
Second round of tests. I'm looking at a single embedded player to handle all device types to simplify things even farther. If anybody is available to hit this link and let me know
the following info that will be a huge help.

Device: PC
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Windows 7
Browser and version number: Chrome 20.0.1132.47 m
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 1:18PM PST
Time zone tested from: Pacific
Issues encountered: None

Jim Rosenow
07-08-2012, 02:51 PM
You've done a good job, Paul! I knew MFirefox wouldn't work (and concur that it's no big deal), and was surprised that anything did over 3G. Most excellent!! :)

Jim

Mayhemxpc
07-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Works fine on the iPad2
Device: iPad
Operating system/version number of Device tested: iOS 5.1.1
Browser and version number: Safari 5.1.6
Internet connection used: WiFi/FIOS
Time tested: 1701 EDT
Time zone tested from: EDT
Issues encountered:None

Did not work on a MacBook Pro

Device: MacBook Pro
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Lion 10.7.4
Browser and version number: Safari 5.1.6 and Firefox 13.01
Internet connection used: Wifi/Cable (FIOS)
Time tested: 1715 EDT
Time zone tested from: EDT
Issues encountered: For both browsers, no image. Firefox reported "Some plug-ins used by this page are out of date"

Bill
07-08-2012, 11:44 PM
Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Android Ice Cream Sandwich
Browser and version number: Opera Mobile
Internet connection used: DSL
Time tested: 7:10 PM
Time zone tested from: MST
Issues encountered: None

Ozzie
07-09-2012, 12:55 AM
tested OK on both explorer and firefox on laptop. test @ 1:45am your time (4:49pm Aussie eastern +10) so night time their but could make out building etc.

spongebobiwan
07-09-2012, 01:02 AM
Did not work on a MacBook Pro

Device: MacBook Pro
Operating system/version number of Device tested: Lion 10.7.4
Browser and version number: Safari 5.1.6 and Firefox 13.01
Internet connection used: Wifi/Cable (FIOS)
Time tested: 1715 EDT
Time zone tested from: EDT
Issues encountered: For both browsers, no image. Firefox reported "Some plug-ins used by this page are out of date"
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Tried it on a MacBook Air, OS X Lion 10.7.4, Safari 5.1.7 (newest version of Safari). Worked fine with no problems, including the audio. Chrome 20.0.1132.47; also no problems and sound works too. Firefox 14.0 Beta, also no problem and sound works also.

I'll give it a try tomorrow on my wife's MacBook Pro to see if I have any problems.

Todd Ritzman
07-09-2012, 08:23 AM
The wayfinding towers are currently being raised. The link in the first post is for the Warbird Camera and that will be running on a tour shortly.

Todd Ritzman

wyoranch
07-09-2012, 09:52 AM
Other than the warbirds cam suffering from cataracts :-) everything is GREAT! Thanks again for all of your hard work.
Rick

Todd Ritzman
07-09-2012, 10:41 AM
We are hoping that is just some dew that has to dry off yet. If it does not clear up by the weekend, we will see what we can due to get up there Todd

wyoranch
07-09-2012, 10:45 AM
I was just messing with you. I have complete faith in all of you!

Paul Hayden
07-09-2012, 11:40 AM
wonder if Hal would notice if we put a UAV with a squeegy in the budget...

MEdwards
07-09-2012, 12:42 PM
Great to see!

Moisture must be on the inside of the glass or surely it would have dried out by now.

I'm seeing a regular jerkiness in the pan, regular slight hesitations about every 750 ms or so. Wonder if that's in the mechanism or if it''s interruptions in the video feed somewhere along the line, perhaps at my end.

Thanks.

Mike E

Paul Hayden
07-09-2012, 12:47 PM
yeah, it has to be on the inside, which is a bit odd since all 3 cameras were stored and prepped in the same location and installed on the same day. I think its getting a little better compaired to first thing this morning.

there is always a slight wobble especially when its zoomed in a bit, that and the encoding are probably causing the video to not be perfectly smooth when panning.

Tsarach
07-09-2012, 01:49 PM
Device: iMac
Operating system/version number of Device tested: OSX 10.7.4
Browser and version number: Safari 5.1.7
Internet connection used: Cable
Time tested: 3:47PM
Time zone tested from: EST
Issues encountered: None, looks great.

orvie6
07-09-2012, 04:17 PM
I just looked at the video and also noticed the 'cloudy' area from about the due east positon to around to the VOR station. I think it is from where the camera was contacting the ground during the last week or so.. I have to comment on how EMPTY it looks right now..just wait another 10 days or so!!! I notice that is the warbird camera..are there others to choose from as well? I am using an HP laptop with windows7 with IE9 on DSL. Viewed at 6:15 PM EDT and other than the above mentioned cloudiness...no problems!!
Wayne

Paul Hayden
07-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Yea. That is some condensation that got in there somehow. We are working on trying to figure out how to resolve the issue. There will be a total of 5 streams hopefully. Ultralight, vintage/show center, warbirds, and something for the air show.

Todd Ritzman
07-09-2012, 05:24 PM
Unfortunutly the moisture did get inside the camera housing. Last Monday they had a big storm come though the area early evening. There was heavy rain, hail, high winds. There was approximately a dozen exhibit tents damaged and or distroyed. A couple trees blown over and a lot of branches broken off around the grounds. Sure glad this was before all the planes started to arrive and hope for a beautiful week during the show. The warbird camera was facing directly into the wind and must have drove some rain through a seal.

I had looked at the cameras again this last Saturday and did not see the fog in there at that time, but it was getting latter in the evening. We are hoping that in a couple of days that it might clear up as we are not sure if we can get a lift to get us about 60 feet up to open it up. We are checking into the possibility of a lift and hope one is available.

Once the official webpage is posted by EAA there will be additional cameras as Paul posted in the previous post. The replacement power supply for the Ultralight Camera is due to arrive latter this week and will be installed on my next trip to OSH on the weekend.

Todd Ritzman
07-09-2012, 05:34 PM
Thank you to all that have been testing these sample streams and reporting back. It has helped us move forward in providing a feed that the majority have not had problems viewing.

As of right now I am shutting off the Theater in the Woods sample stream. Watch for the official site to be posted soon by EAA.

Also, follow the thread in the following link for status updates for all webcams. http://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?2284-AirVenture-2012-Webcam-Official-Thread

spongebobiwan
07-09-2012, 07:24 PM
The EAA grounds look beautiful during this very favorite part of the day for me, an hour or so before sunset. I've always enjoyed this part of the day the most, as it seems that somehow the lighting is just so much better, but especially so while watching something as memorably enjoyable as Oshkosh.

MEdwards
07-09-2012, 10:42 PM
I'm seeing a regular jerkiness in the pan, regular slight hesitations about every 750 ms or so. Wonder if that's in the mechanism or if it''s interruptions in the video feed somewhere along the line, perhaps at my end.Followup FYI: The issue apparently is indeed digital and at my end. I am not seeing the same effect at home on DSL.

Mike E

Bobbo_ZA
07-10-2012, 04:49 AM
Hi Paul, great work, look forward to the event:

Device: IPhone
Operating system/version number of Device tested: iOS 5
Browser and version number: IPCam Viewer Pro v1.7
Internet connection used: 3G
Time tested: 12:48
Time zone tested from: GMT+2
Issues encountered: Bit slow but i suspect it to be the 3G connection, will test on Wifi Later

bill8346
07-12-2012, 03:59 PM
works great on my HP touchpad.....you got me all geeked up! Thanks Paul, great job, it was so disappointing last year without the cams! I've been going to oshkosh since 88 and the webcams are the perfect precursor and wind down mechanism to the event! Leave yours up the whole time!

Paul Hayden
07-12-2012, 04:08 PM
Thanks, but this is the 4th year we have had streaming video, and this is the 3rd straight year for the ptz cameras on the way finding towers. We just switched encoding and distribution methods to accommodate a greater number of devices. The link it just up for trials, once EAA corporate figures out where on the official pages it will live, that link will go away and the additional cameras and air show camera will be available.

Mayhemxpc
07-14-2012, 07:30 AM
Works fine on the Macbook pro this morning. No changes in configuration since my previous post.

spongebobiwan
07-14-2012, 08:53 AM
Works fine on the Macbook pro this morning. No changes in configuration since my previous post.

Good to hear. Glad you got it working.

Todd Ritzman
07-15-2012, 08:04 AM
Yesterday we tried to get up to the cameras to see if it was moisture that got into the Warbird Camera housing, but the tallest lift that EAA has is still about 15 feet from reaching the cameras. So at this point we are just going to have to wait and see if it continues to dry out on it's own over the next week. We have seen it improve over the last week already. Just a slow process as the housings the cameras are mounted in are supose to be weather proof.

We also got the power supply installed for the ultralight camera and is functional. We are still waiting for EAA Corporate to publish the page where all the links are going to live. Once this happens all three cameras are ready to go online.

Todd

spongebobiwan
07-15-2012, 09:23 AM
As the late President Eisenhower once quoted (and YES. I've just totally aged myself), "You know, farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field.", but it looks to me as if what we are seeing, for the most part, isn't the moisture any more, but rather the remaining residue or should I say mineral deposits that are left over after the moisture dried in the sun. Much like the way water marks are left over on your car if you allow it to dry in the sun after washing it instead of wiping it down to dry.

Having said that, and of course I'm just kind of guessing here, but I'm wondering if it is ever going to really totally clear up and go away on its own. It does allow however for the opportunity of adding the additional step to next year's AirVenture setup, "check the camera lens housing atop the way finding towers for dirt or moisture BEFORE raising the tower up", a step of course that was thought to be unnecessary due to the housings supposedly being watertight.

Todd Ritzman
07-16-2012, 04:59 AM
Having said that, and of course I'm just kind of guessing here, but I'm wondering if it is ever going to really totally clear up and go away on its own. It does allow however for the opportunity of adding the additional step to next year's AirVenture setup, "check the camera lens housing atop the way finding towers for dirt or moisture BEFORE raising the tower up", a step of course that was thought to be unnecessary due to the housings supposedly being watertight.

One of the problems is we don't know exactly the day the towers are going to be raised. We are told a window that the towers are going be raised and we make special trips to Oshkosh to make sure the equipment that is required to be installed before the towers are raised is there. All three cameras were looked at two days before the towers were raised and there was no sign of fogging at that time. Some of the current haze may go away yet and some of it might not. But we still feel some of it is fogging as we see it in different areas. Yesterday the camera looked very good all day.

Like most things that happen in preparing for AirVenture, everything is done on a VOLUNTEER basis. Paul and I have spent a lot of time and well over 2000 miles preparing the new distribution system and getting equipment installed this year as neither of us live around Oshkosh. And since we also have jobs, we just can not sit there waiting for the company with the crane to arrive to lift the towers.

Todd

spongebobiwan
07-16-2012, 06:24 AM
Hey Todd,

The last thing I intended to say or even imply was anything that would take away from the abundant efforts you and Paul or your volunteers put forth to set everything up, or in any way to detract from that effort. I can see as I re-read my comment that it certainly could have been read and interpreted in that way, as if you or your volunteers perhaps somehow botched things up by not checking the lens housing ahead of time. That was not my thinking or intent at all.

I was intending more or less to make light of the situation and what I was actually thinking about as I typed that out was more along the lines of no matter how hard you try or how careful you are to do a quality or excellent job, Murphy's Law is always at hand ever present standing by to try to sabotage one's efforts. I guess my comment did not accurately reflect what I was actually thinking at the time and I didn't word it very carefully. Please forgive my lame attempt at being funny. I think all the volunteers are absolutely tremendous and I'd never want to do anything other than compliment them on all their efforts and sacrifices.

AeroPilot
07-16-2012, 08:06 AM
Besides the first post, is there a place where the links to all the webcams are / will be posted?

Paul Hayden
07-16-2012, 08:12 AM
its my understanding that the links will be posted in a pretty format on the main airventure.org/live page.

Todd Ritzman
07-16-2012, 02:44 PM
Hey Todd,

The last thing I intended to say or even imply was anything that would take away from the abundant efforts you and Paul or your volunteers put forth to set everything up, or in any way to detract from that effort. I can see as I re-read my comment that it certainly could have been read and interpreted in that way, as if you or your volunteers perhaps somehow botched things up by not checking the lens housing ahead of time. That was not my thinking or intent at all.

I was intending more or less to make light of the situation and what I was actually thinking about as I typed that out was more along the lines of no matter how hard you try or how careful you are to do a quality or excellent job, Murphy's Law is always at hand ever present standing by to try to sabotage one's efforts. I guess my comment did not accurately reflect what I was actually thinking at the time and I didn't word it very carefully. Please forgive my lame attempt at being funny. I think all the volunteers are absolutely tremendous and I'd never want to do anything other than compliment them on all their efforts and sacrifices.

I personally did not take the comment as a negative comment. I just wanted to let people know some of the logistics of making this possible. Which in some respects has been a bit of a challenge this year. And yes Murphy has been present in many steps along this process.

Every year we have tried to improve on the previous year. This year has presented itself with a lot of new challenges because of using new encoding hardware and software, embeded players that work with most operating systems and browsers, testing along the way and learning what worked and what didn't. We hope that what we have rolled out provides a easy to access viewer for the end user.

We also make notes of things we see we can try to improve on for future years, and trust me, this issue of the moisture getting into the one camera is already on the list to look at when the towers are taken back down. We will look at the seals to ensure they are in good condition, we also have discussed the possibility of seeing if there is a way to put some desiccant somewhere in the housing out of the way to also help with humidity issues. Another item as these housing have aged is the small scratches and scuffs they have in the domes that really show up in the early morning or late evening, hopefully some of these can be address as well.

Thanks for your comment and complements.

Todd

Jim Rosenow
07-17-2012, 11:05 AM
Thanks, Paul and Todd!!

All 3 share my DSL simultaneously with no bandwidth issues. Wish I was there to help!

Jim

spongebobiwan
07-17-2012, 11:10 AM
Quite honestly, the warbird cam is not looking too bad at all today, outside of some pretty insignificant cloudiness more noticeable on the "lower orbit" when traveling from about east northeast to about east southeast (near and around the business end of 18). It's certainly clear enough for enjoyable viewing.

I love being wrong especially when my outlook happens to be a bit on the pessimistic side of things. ;-)

Paul Hayden
07-17-2012, 12:48 PM
yeah, we are glad too since the lift didn't reach high enough.

spongebobiwan
07-18-2012, 05:35 AM
LOL. Looks like the seagulls are attempting to eat all the grass seed, or something over in the Scott's grassy area by the two tents adjacent to the Warbirds in Review deck this morning. Or maybe there's just a bunch of nice juicy worms in there.

Also, the Warbirds camera is still looking pretty good this morning. I was a bit concerned with yesterday's (and perhaps more coming today) rain, wondering about the seal in that lens cover. Maybe my worries were in unfounded.

Jim Hann
07-18-2012, 11:19 AM
yeah, we are glad too since the lift didn't reach high enough.

Too bad Pierce isn't a sponsor, you could borrow one of their fire trucks!

Paul Hayden
07-18-2012, 11:40 AM
thats true..although I'm still holding out hope for a Quadcopter with a Squeegee

Bill Greenwood
07-18-2012, 12:49 PM
Is there some color distortion in the camera, or is is really as dry and brown as it looks there? I'll miss the green grass that Oshkosh usually has.

Paul Hayden
07-18-2012, 01:06 PM
no, no color distortion. Its just plain drier than hell.

Todd Ritzman
07-18-2012, 02:37 PM
Paul is absolutely right.

If anything, I have the color saturation on the camera set on the high side making it look better than it really is. Unless the last day of rain up there helps perk up the grass in the next day or two, it is going to be very dry grass. Don't hold your breath on that one. When we mounted the cameras during the beginning of the month, the grass was like straw and did a good job at cutting up the legs.

If you really want to find green grass, I suggest stopping by the Scott's sponsored area in Warbirds, they have been watering that on a normal basis and is nice and green.

Todd

spongebobiwan
07-18-2012, 02:41 PM
Mystery of the feasting seagulls this morning, solved. All that watering must be bringing up the worms and other critters. Although I would have thought they'd all died of dehydration by now. The bugs, I mean. :-)

Bill Berson
07-18-2012, 02:53 PM
Those webcams are excellent.
I always thought the airport would be almost full by now, 5 days from opening, but it appears to be nearly vacant today.
When do the airplanes come in?

Todd Ritzman
07-18-2012, 03:37 PM
Starting tomorrow things will really start picking up, with Saturday and Sunday being really busy. If I remember correctly today is the first day of the Oshkosh Arrivial procedures being active. By Sunday it will look way different.

Todd Ritzman
07-18-2012, 03:51 PM
Official EAA Webpage is up for the cameras. www.airventure.org/webcams