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kscessnadriver
01-02-2012, 11:11 AM
I come here to see posts about aviation, but recently all it seems to be is a bunch of people bickering about types of energy, oil drilling and political views related to that. If I wanted that, I could go to a bunch of other forums, not the EAA forum. Perhaps it's time to leave here, since it doesn't seem to be about aviation any more.

Bill Greenwood
01-02-2012, 11:53 AM
From CessnaDriver, " I could go to a bunch of other forums".
Well, why don't you do that, instead of critisizing and trying to be the authority on what someone else can or should write about.
Or if you don't think the avgas topic is related to aviation, I'd guess you may not be paying for much of your own fuel.
And not all of us are interested in "driving" Cessnas either.

kscessnadriver
01-02-2012, 05:28 PM
All I'm trying to do is make the same point that the people who rant about the magazine not catering to their specific interests.

And honestly, if a 50 cent to 1 dollar increase in fuel is going to shut your flying down, you probably shouldn't have been anyway. I'd hate to see what kind of maintenance a person of that situation would skimp on.

Janet Davidson
01-02-2012, 05:43 PM
So why not start a thread about aviation rather than bickering about people discussing subjects that have profound effects on aviation.. :rollseyes:

Mike Switzer
01-02-2012, 06:04 PM
And honestly, if a 50 cent to 1 dollar increase in fuel is going to shut your flying down, you probably shouldn't have been anyway. I'd hate to see what kind of maintenance a person of that situation would skimp on.

What planet are you living on? Fuel price here has more than doubled since the current "oil crisis" started.

* the "crisis" being almost 100% caused by speculation at the CME

Boeing B-17G 42-231465
01-02-2012, 07:19 PM
All I'm trying to do is make the same point that the people who rant about the magazine not catering to their specific interests.

And honestly, if a 50 cent to 1 dollar increase in fuel is going to shut your flying down, you probably shouldn't have been anyway. I'd hate to see what kind of maintenance a person of that situation would skimp on.

Well maybe its a $0.50 or $1.00 increase, and you don't care in your little Cessna 150 with 26 gallons capacity, yeah if gas costs $4.25 and goes to $5.25 you're only $26 more; however, if you fly a DC-3, you've got to fill about 822 gallons of gas, its going to cost you cost you about $600 more to fill up your plane, and thats a lot of money.

Mike Switzer
01-02-2012, 09:09 PM
And if you fly a 182 and it goes from $3 & change to $7 in less than 10 years with no appreciable increase in your income what does that do to you??

Seerjfly
01-02-2012, 10:37 PM
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Jalsup
01-03-2012, 01:03 PM
I actually understand the sentiment behind the posters thread but I think it would be difficult to separate politics and oil at this point in our history. And, airplanes need fossil fuels to operate. And, avgas and power options are one of the big challenges general aviation face. And, pilot-starts are down and a large part of that is probably cost driven primarily by fuel. And, EAA is trying to become more of a "catch-all" type of organization (TBM articles in Sport Aviation and such) - so, threads like that are probably inevitable. And probably relevant to the aviation cause.

Paul8661
01-03-2012, 02:26 PM
And not all of us are interested in "driving" Cessnas either.[/QUOTE]

Bill,

Hey...be mad at CessnaDriver not the Cessna airplane

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kscessnadriver
01-03-2012, 03:08 PM
I was really just trying to poke some humor at the people who decided they wanted to rant about the magazine because it didn't fit their ideas and requirements for what should/shouldn't be in the magazine. The oil thing was the first real topic that got expanded that allowed me to try to make the point I wanted to make. There is always somebody who isn't happy with something.

I don't pay for my fuel (well, except in rare occasions where I fly for personal reasons), as I'm a professional pilot who does this sort of thing for a living.

Janet Davidson
01-03-2012, 03:54 PM
I think you will find that you are not unique and that quite a lot of people on here earn a living flying but also pay for fuel when flying as a hobby, therefore the issues of oil, politics etc, etc are very relevant both professionally & personally.

Hiperbiper
01-03-2012, 09:51 PM
I was really just trying to poke some humor at the people who decided they wanted to rant about the magazine because it didn't fit their ideas and requirements for what should/shouldn't be in the magazine. The oil thing was the first real topic that got expanded that allowed me to try to make the point I wanted to make. There is always somebody who isn't happy with something.I don't pay for my fuel (well, except in rare occasions where I fly for personal reasons), as I'm a professional pilot who does this sort of thing for a living.KSCD;As a member of Flying Forums, Corvette Forums, WWII Forums and RC Heli Forums I sometime click on posts that I have no real interest in personally (Just lookin') and just choose to leave and let the posters therein have at it.On forums, just as at any large Aviation gathering, there are people and topics you might find quite interesting while I might find them ass-numbingly dull. And Vice-versa. It all boils down to your interests...The lone exception is the Spin Zone over at POA. I find great entertainment in picking out the self absorbed and rightous posters and pulling the pin on a verbal hand grenade and leaving...never to return to that post. Chris

Joe LaMantia
01-04-2012, 09:38 AM
Well Said Hiperbiper!

Joe
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