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Inspector Fenwick
07-31-2021, 10:22 AM
If there is a rule, I am all for universal enforcement. After Sunday night, many conveyances are not allowed on the grounds. The banned conveyances include (captured from website).....


Bicycles, roller skates, roller blades, skateboards, “Razor” style scooters, hoverboards, golf carts, and other personal mobility devices except as specifically permitted below***.

I have no dog in the hunt, but when I see two of those one wheel thingies whiz by on Whitman, and then a security guy tells a little boy he can't ride his Razor.....something does not seem right. There were electric bikes in abundance. No enforcement that I could see, not saying it wasn't there. The Razor is not allowed, clearly, but what sort of message is this to that little guy? When he gets taller he can do what he wants?? All in all, great OSH experience, maybe 40 plus as I quit counting. I will be back next year with grandkids this time.

Grum.man
07-31-2021, 10:41 AM
While I don't agree with the security guy stopping the kid and not the adults, yes part of growing up is getting more freedom and responsibility. That said I didn't see too many offenders of breaking the rule except for the people who rented powered wheel chairs that clearly didn't need it. What I did see is vendors, vip, or other notable people riding around in UTV's golf carts, and 4 wheelers. Unless you are a medical provider, delivering supplies, or shuffling volunteers you shouldn't be using motorized transportation. It wasn't as bad this year as it has been so good on whoever helped crack down on it.

FlyingRon
07-31-2021, 02:02 PM
This is yet another side effect of the ADA abuse. The EAA is letting just about anything driven by anybody to be considered a disabled transportation device. It's causing problems like the service/support animal nnnsense.

turtle
07-31-2021, 02:20 PM
The EAA is letting just about anything driven by anybody to be considered a disabled transportation device.

Cool. Next year I'm bringing a Roman chariot powered by my emotional support Emu because of vision problems - I can't see myself walking around like a normal person. Watch where you step.

ssteve1
08-01-2021, 07:18 AM
I'm sorry for the poor little boy also, but, adults know how to get that "accessibility" sticker. Ummmm, even when they really don't need it for "accessibilty".

Too bad.

Inspector Fenwick
08-01-2021, 08:28 AM
I'm sorry for the poor little boy also, but, adults know how to get that "accessibility" sticker. Ummmm, even when they really don't need it for "accessibilty".

Too bad.

I want to add that this event is the peak of my year. Always has been since the days of riding the "tram" from the N 40 which was then not that far north, and the tram was a flat bed farm wagon pulled by a farm tractor. I cannot imagine the manpower, training, logistical, and other issues involved. So, my complaint was meant to be more of an "observation" than anything else. I am sure there are many issues that popped up. The bike/electric bike/one wheeler issue is one that needs to be addressed. Having the freedom to ride a bike during the pre-show days was nice, but that freedom ends Sunday night. I will also bet that next year, Portage will be added as an additional transition point (prior to Endeavor) on the arrival procedure. I see complaints about noise. Sleeping in the VAC area, it is music to my ears to hear the clanging dumpster emptying out, and the porta potty service truck. I also think that after Wednesday's storm, the water sucking truck(s) were put to use. And yes, if they ever pull The Yodeler, I will be gone, just sayin. That is EAA Heritage, thru and thru. I am glad that they archived those 7am events.

Mike Switzer
08-01-2021, 12:04 PM
What is a "one wheeler"??

mazdaP5
08-01-2021, 01:25 PM
Sort of like a skateboard, but with one large powered wheel in the middle.

FrankLudington
08-01-2021, 03:10 PM
yep, love hearing the Yodeler each year!

Mike Switzer
08-01-2021, 04:55 PM
Sort of like a skateboard, but with one large powered wheel in the middle.

Sounds like a good way to get hurt

Md11pilot
08-02-2021, 03:13 AM
Spoke with a guy whose company is a vendor that is a friend. He said he is allowed to bring his very large fifth wheel which contains all of his merchandise - aircraft engines - and can use a golf cart to get it set up BUT. Only until Sunday night prior to the start. After that he is not allowed even a golf cart unless he”donates” $50,000!

There seems to be a “secret” society of “allowed” people. The key is money

martymayes
08-02-2021, 06:39 AM
IBTL

FlyingRon
08-02-2021, 03:52 PM
Spoke with a guy whose company is a vendor that is a friend. He said he is allowed to bring his very large fifth wheel which contains all of his merchandise - aircraft engines - and can use a golf cart to get it set up BUT. Only until Sunday night prior to the start.

This is what you want. (Other than the exception for donations). There's no sane show that lets people drive vehicles in amongst the crowd. This was an absolutely disaster in Oshkoshes ages ago. It got better when they hired the exhibition service and put restrictions on load in/load out times.

skyfixer8
08-02-2021, 04:41 PM
As a tram driver, don t get me started on the conveyance problem cited above. Anyone that doesn t belieive there is a problem should try driving a tram at peak times.