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skyfixer8
07-11-2021, 02:32 PM
Anyone have an update on when web cams will be up and running ?

mazdaP5
07-11-2021, 03:03 PM
I have no inside knowledge an am just pulling a guess out of thin air: Thursday the 22nd. A blue Stearman in vintage will be te only plane you can see.

Sam Oleson
07-12-2021, 08:43 AM
We anticipate the web cams will be live the week before AirVenture, though unfortunately we can't give you an exact date at this point.

skyfixer8
07-12-2021, 11:49 AM
Thanks Sam. Might have to miss show this year so will have to watch from afar

biggles1998
07-19-2021, 01:51 AM
also eagerly anticipating the cams from over the pond..

dclaxon
07-19-2021, 09:55 AM
The past couple of years there was a link on the webcam page to an "Airshow" cam, and I thought I had seen that link still there just a few weeks ago, but now it seems to be gone. Does that mean there will be no airshow cam this year? I had hoped to send my brother the link to watch the night airshow.

deftone
07-20-2021, 02:46 AM
The past couple of years there was a link on the webcam page to an "Airshow" cam, and I thought I had seen that link still there just a few weeks ago, but now it seems to be gone. Does that mean there will be no airshow cam this year? I had hoped to send my brother the link to watch the night airshow.

There is a note on the EAA website that they will not be livestreaming the airshows this year.

mazdaP5
07-20-2021, 04:42 AM
Strange choice. But it might be tough to do with the dual airbox concept.

Jim Hann
07-20-2021, 06:09 AM
Strange choice. But it might be tough to do with the dual airbox concept.

The feds won’t allow the camera man/crew up in the tower due to social distancing requirements for the controllers. It has been asked why they didn’t plan on a different location, lots of buildings with flat roofs they could add a platform to. [emoji2373]


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Sirota
07-20-2021, 09:59 AM
In past years, it seems (but I don't know for certain) the web cams were up and running before now. It seems odd that with 2 years to prepare, that the camera installation is so late. Similarly, the refinements (problems) EAA is having with the Airventure app is equally confusing. They had a whole extra year to perfect it. I hope this isn't a preview of what we'll experience next week.

MEdwards
07-20-2021, 10:16 AM
We also haven’t heard from the friendly, dedicated volunteers who have managed the webcams in the past. Perhaps they’re gone so the process is less efficient.

Sirota
07-20-2021, 10:23 AM
I hope not. They did a great job. Between the camera portion coupled with the internet component, it seem to me that its a pretty specialized skill. I suspect they'd be hard to replace - with a volunteer no less.

Sirota
07-21-2021, 06:18 PM
Well, Webcams are up. Compared to years past VERY DISAPPOINTING. Poor resolution, crowded with an EAA advertisement. It's a cry'n shame EAA can't afford to put out a better product. Oh Wait, they have 38.....MILLION in the bank

Kyle Boatright
07-21-2021, 06:28 PM
Well, Webcams are up. Compared to years past VERY DISAPPOINTING.

I saw those too, and had the same reaction. I recognize they (the old cameras) were not a money maker, but they sure created pre-show excitement for the people who are hard core enthusiasts. Also, they gave me an opportunity to call the Mrs. from the show, tell her what camera to watch so I could wave at her.

deftone
07-21-2021, 07:08 PM
If you click on the little gear icon you can select 720p and that makes the resolution a bit better. For some reason auto keeps it at potato spec, probably yet another tech glitch from EAA. Its a little concerning how rough things have been in the lead up to OSH'21. I realize there are probably still people working from home etc, but we have known the show will be going ahead for some time.

The huge ads on the webcam feeds are just crass and unnecessary. Lets face it, if you are looking at webcams of the grounds before the event is even taking place, you are probably aware of an EAA membership.

ssteve1
07-21-2021, 07:11 PM
Seriously, if the webcam mess that is presented, just one day prior to GRAND BROWN ARCH AIRVENTURE 2021 OPENING is any kind of a hint of this years airventure (note, lowercase), then I am a dot on your wind screen.

dclaxon
07-22-2021, 07:04 AM
Also, is there no longer a way to select a specific camera? There seems to be only the option for the 3-in-1 feed, or a "cycling" feed, which I would assume cycles through the 3 cams, but all I am getting on that option is a black screen with "This event has not started yet."

psvinny
07-22-2021, 09:20 AM
Very disappointing camera display. Because of some surgery I will be limited as to when I can actually attend. So some of my exposure will be at home watching my monitor.

Auburntsts
07-22-2021, 09:29 AM
This year's webcams are like the AirVenture App - a great idea but poorly implemented.

Jim Rosenow
07-22-2021, 12:28 PM
So.....seriously.....3/4 of the screen for webcams and 1/4 for advertising? ....no option for individual cams, to enable one to focus on their actual interests. Without 'the boys' the combined assets of EAA and P&W muster up a reduction in service?

My first EAA fly-in was RFD in '62 (8th grade). First Oshkosh was '71...regular attendee/volunteer. Still own multiple arcraft. It seems in this and other areas EAA and I are going down different paths.

Membership is up end of the month. Guess that's long enough.

Jim
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mc20
07-22-2021, 12:43 PM
Membership is up end of the month. Guess that's long enough.


After being canceled last year, I felt bad for the EAA and got a lifetime membership and gave a cash donation on top of that.

Bad move. Instead of using it to improve AirVenture, they sold off the webcams to Pratt and Whitney.

The EAA used to be an organization for its members, but it’s becoming the same as the AOPA - an organization that exists soley to further the organization itself and make money. We’re just the suckers they sell to corporate sponsors.

The Boss
07-23-2021, 04:32 AM
After being canceled last year, I felt bad for the EAA and got a lifetime membership and gave a cash donation on top of that.

Bad move. Instead of using it to improve AirVenture, they sold off the webcams to Pratt and Whitney.

The EAA used to be an organization for its members, but it’s becoming the same as the AOPA - an organization that exists soley to further the organization itself and make money. We’re just the suckers they sell to corporate sponsors.
You "NAILED" it my friend! :thumbsup:

Jim Rosenow
07-23-2021, 05:44 AM
We also haven’t heard from the friendly, dedicated volunteers who have managed the webcams in the past. Perhaps they’re gone so the process is less efficient.

Being a retired geek, I've been in contact with the webcam crew on and off over the years. Even had the pleasure of thanking them in person in their hideaway at Oshkosh one time.

I've heard from them since my previous posting..the skinny is that following OSH19, the small team was summarily dis-banded by EAA via phone and a follow-up letter. They were told no more volunteers would be needed, and that the function was being taken 'in-house'. No rationale was provided to them. I'm told that this year the cams are being run by a commercial vendor.

Although conjecture may be that the change was made to monetize the stream for EAA (given the new sponsorship) I've been aware that the team offered options to EAA to place ads in the webcam streams years ago, without results.

Don't forget that the team was not only providing their expertise (both computer and aviation), but loaning personal computing/networking 'stuff' without cost to EAA. Given the info above, I think EAA has totally dropped the ball for those of us who don't get to OSH every year.

I realize there are two sides to every story, and look forward to a response by EAA.

Jim