I just saw a plane deliberately (on live ATC) break the CONGA line above Ripon (90 degree entry)when an alternate transition was being used and the flight path and holds were full. Why would a pilot do this????
I just saw a plane deliberately (on live ATC) break the CONGA line above Ripon (90 degree entry)when an alternate transition was being used and the flight path and holds were full. Why would a pilot do this????
He's the same guy who drives up the shoulder in a traffic backup, passing everyone who's safely waiting until they reach the exit ramp. He's more important than you are (or thinks he is). Probably also the guy who won't attend safety seminars, won't read accident reports, doesn't practice basic airmanship skills, etc. Oh, and he's never heard of the AirVenture NOTAM.
Eric Page
Building: Kitfox 5 Safari | Rotax 912iS | Dynon HDX
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Map of Landings
Plenty of room to come in right now. There's a thunderstorm going through. Someone was still driving a tram during the rain.
Some are not worthy of the community of pilots & controllers.
Like my dad told me 38 years ago about work, "Never quit a job because of a**holes, because a**holes are everywhere." Same applies to flying. Saturday afternoon, I had three high-wing Zenith pilots cut in front of me about 10 miles from Fisk (line started 5 miles south of Endeavour). Then as a little icing on the cake, they proceeded to fly at 70-75 kts.
Bryan
Houston
Larry Nelson EAA 35011
President EAA Chapter 821
Springfield, MO
PA 30 / Cessna 195
Don't waste your energy on the idiots. The idiots won't get it.
Once upon a time I was in a flight of 20 coming in to the show at OSH from western Wisconsin. 10 elements of two in trail. The pre-launch agreement via telephone with the folks at OSH was that our group would follow the Fisk arrival and then be turned east to land on runway 36. We followed the instructions with each element turning east over Fisk. As I followed my lead down final I heard our tail-end charlie call to me "Wes there is a Baron behind you". Yes some idiot thought that it was a good idea to break in, likely ignore the call from the controllers at Fisk, and join our arrival. As you might guess, I tightened up on lead and the elements behind just made space so that they would not overrun the idiot in the Baron.
I think that I was in two wingspan out position on lead as we put our wheels on runway 36 together and I made sure that I did not slow down until lead did so. And I am pretty sure that Jared, lead, did not slow down until he had to, knowing that there was an idiot following. We turned off the runway and followed the flag-persons' signals to parking. Don't know where the Baron went. And life goes on.
Just see the stupids before they see you. You can't fix it.
Best of luck,
Wes
Last edited by WLIU; 12-07-2023 at 02:25 PM.