EAA believes? Bret, we're EAA. You work for the membership.
The very definition of "Security Theater". Useless, but it makes everybody feel good.The policy helps us ensure that everyone out there who is not as familiar with us understands we take safety of our youth as seriously as every other organization.
You said it.Background checks...are not effective to prevent someone with no record from harming someone..
...and is apparently a sales organization who farms the actual checks out to a 4th party you didn't know about.AmericanChecked is our third party vendor for the background checks....
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Dan Horton
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My mistrust is WELL FOUNDED. The EAA has had continual problems with computer security and is clear that they are somewhat deficient in their understanding of the issues. And yes, yes having had problems with this in the past, it's going to take a little more than just some EAA reps ASSERTION that things are safe especially in light of evidence to the contrary. NOBODY at the EAA has made any attempt to assuage these fears and I doubt that the tiny minority of EAA Members who show up on this forum are going to determine their opinions on the YOUNG EAGLES program solely on what either YOU or I say.
It is the single best thing EAA has done in 25 years, by far and away. That is why this is angering so many of those of us who participate on one or more levels. I've worked events where 200+ kids get rides as a ground marshall, and have spent my time, my money and incurred wear and tear on my plane (or rentals) because I believe we need to get more kids interested in flying. But we now have fences around the airports, locks on hangar doors - it is bad enough before you add a new burden that can really only be interetpreted one way for far too many of us - no we need barb wire and a cone of silence around the kids lest one of us behave inappropriately - WHILE FLYING A PLANE FOR A SHORT TRIP AROUND THE PATTERN - EITHER WITH OTHER KIDS IN TH PLANE OR IN A TANDEM MILITARY TRAINER.
This just continues to make flying less fun and less worthy of sharing - the economic burden is already a barrier of entry to so many, let's make it better by cordoning off the airports and treating the guys who give so much as if they are one step away from becoming monsters.
Sorry for those who don't/won't try to understand but this is extremely aggravating for a whole host of reasons speaking for myself.
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I am sorry to ask this, but has there been an "official" explanation as to why. Again I am arriving to the party late here. I for one keep my privacy rights very well guarded, but I do ( a small small portion of me at least) see a little ( very little) bit of reasoning.
Rick
As Aviators, we live Operational Risk Management. The Severity of a Risk, measured from green to yellow to red, is a product of the Impact of a Risk and its Probability. Headquarters, eg, the bureaucrati in EAA, not us the rank and file and reason for HQ and the association, has deemed the Risk of a Sexual Predator to be a Red Risk that has to be mitigated.
IM<HO, HQ is playing to some social current. The reality of the situation is that flying with any of us posses a more consequential event (death or serious injury) that has a much higher probability (I think there hav been two YE fatalities).
We are not the Scouts or CAP with extended overnight or secluded unchaperoned time with kids.
i am perfectly happy to declare to the parent of a potential YE copilot that I have not been vetted by the EAA Secret Police, and let them make an informed decision about placing their progeny in my airplane. I'd even wear a Scarlet T shirt with that notice on it.
Members of EAA are respected by the community because of the strength of their character and their actions, not the paper held by nameless bureacrati in Wisconsin.
Ted
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I have it from a reliable source that as of today, approximately 1,200 pilots have taken the training and submitted their info for the background check. That includes me. There are about 5,000 YE pilots nationwide, so that's about one-fifth that are complying. I hope that EAA does not back down, and holds its ground, and I hope that the YE program survives by bringing aboard a new crop of volunteers, who are willing to submit this simple requirement, and who will replace the quitters.
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Brian and Michelle signed the letter to me. They instituted the policy by signing this letter. They may have thought they didn't have a choice, but they will lose their job if there is no longer a Young Eagles program. Perhaps they should have involved more people in the Young Eagles program before they issued this letter. They should have been better prepared.
I hate it that people have been mean to them, but they did not have a good answer for me when I called them. Brian did listen and was professional during my whole call.
Ever had your information stolen and used? If not, then you don't really know why it is an issue.
I am willing to fly kids all day long.... I am not willing to trust the EAA with my data. I guess since you are not willing to fly your plane and I am... That I care more about kids in aviation than you.
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