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Thread: Icon A5 Request For Weight Increase Exemption Status

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    You'll be too busy having fun in a SubSonex to need cup holders!
    hmmm.... When you put it that way.... Just need to find that $10,000 deposit money first. Let me go check the couch, I think there might be some loose change in there I could scrape together.

    On a side note: Anyone have any experience with building a Sonex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglerhythm View Post
    Dreaming too much, today is Sunday, my prediction add 1 day to Monday Afternoon.
    I hate to say, but it but looks like the decision, scratch that, the announcement will not be made tomorrow.

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    well,will see, I guess before 4:00PM Monday tomorrow, we will either know the result, or wonˊt hear a result forever,lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglerhythm View Post
    well,will see, I guess before 4:00PM Monday tomorrow, we will either know the result, or wonˊt hear a result forever,lol.
    Looks like your wish is coming true, you'll know by 11AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Looks like your wish is coming true, you'll know by 11AM.
    well,look! You are the one who really knows the insight! I believe what you said,lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglerhythm View Post
    well,look! You are the one who really knows the insight! I believe what you said,lol
    Granted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Granted!
    Finally, fun time just get started. This new ICON fish is going to change the ecology of the GA pond, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Granted!
    Wow!

    Full Press Release from Icon on the granted weight exemption:

    FAA Recognizes ICON Aircraft’s Safety Achievements, Grants Spin-Resistance Weight Exemption

    LOS ANGELES (29 July 2013)—The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has issued its decision to grant ICON Aircraft’s petition for exemption to allow an increased takeoff weight for ICON’s A5 amphibious Light Sport Aircraft (LSA) up to a maximum of 1680 lbs. The exemption would accommodate, among other safety features, a Spin-Resistant Airframe (SRA) which enables the A5 to better avoid loss-of-control scenarios due to stall/spins. The company announced in February of 2012 that the A5 had been successfully tested to and met the full FAA Part 23 standard for spin resistance. The FAA exemption will allow the A5 to become the first conventional production aircraft to meet this rigorous safety standard.

    In its Grant of Exemption No. 10829 issued to ICON Aircraft Inc., the FAA stated, "The combined design features and SRA concepts incorporated into the ICON A5 design . . . are recognized by the FAA as significant safety enhancements . . ." The FAA went further to state: "The FAA determined that granting relief from the MTOW (Maximum Takeoff Weight) for LSA for this specific safety enhancement is in the public interest and is also consistent with the FAA’s goals of increasing safety for small planes."

    "We’re excited the FAA has recognized the importance of this accomplishment to the future of aviation safety," said ICON Aircraft Founder and CEO Kirk Hawkins. "For decades now, statistics have shown that loss of control due to stall/spin situations is the leading cause of pilot-related fatal accidents in General Aviation. ICON spent an extraordinary amount of time and resources going well beyond the call of duty to achieve this important safety milestone."

    The FAA’s decision enables ICON to continue with A5 manufacturing, currently scheduled for first production aircraft in spring 2014. The FAA’s published guidance allows up to 120 days to issue a decision on any exemption request; however, ICON’s exemption request was not approved until 14
    months after it was filed in May of 2012. Faced with the delay, ICON was forced to move forward with an interim design weight that still guaranteed the safety benefits of a Spin-Resistant Airframe. As a result, the initial production A5 will have a max gross takeoff weight of 1510 lbs, an 80-pound increase over the standard 1430-pound amphibious LSA maximum. "We had to make some tough engineering decisions in order to keep the program moving forward given the FAA delay," said ICON VP of Engineering, Matthew Gionta. "But in the end, we got to a great place and are on the verge of delivering one of the safest, most user-friendly Light Sport Aircraft possible today."

    In a speech titled "A New Look at Certification" delivered October 11, 2012, FAA Administrator Michael Huerta mapped out the FAA’s vision for the future of aircraft certification where regulations encourage innovation by being less prescriptive and where complexity and performance are used as aircraft criteria instead of weight and propulsion. "We applaud the FAA Administrator and his team for demonstrating truly outstanding thought leadership," said Hawkins. "This kind of progressive thinking unleashes innovation within aviation that will have a profoundly positive impact on increasing safety while simultaneously promoting a strong, growing industry for our economy."
    Last edited by kmhd1; 07-29-2013 at 12:39 PM.

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    Anyone care to guess what exactly this means?

    The FAA’s decision enables ICON to continue with A5 manufacturing, currently scheduled for first production aircraft in spring 2014. The FAA’s published guidance allows up to 120 days to issue a decision on any exemption request; however, ICON’s exemption request was not approved until 14 months after it was filed in May of 2012. Faced with the delay, ICON was forced to move forward with an interim design weight that still guaranteed the safety benefits of a Spin-Resistant Airframe. As a result, the initial production A5 will have a max gross takeoff weight of 1510 lbs, an 80-pound increase over the standard 1430-pound amphibious LSA maximum. "We had to make some tough engineering decisions in order to keep the program moving forward given the FAA delay," said ICON VP of Engineering, Matthew Gionta. "But in the end, we got to a great place and are on the verge of delivering one of the safest, most user-friendly Light Sport Aircraft possible today."

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    Probably that the actual structure increase to meet spin resistance standards is about 80 pounds and not 250.
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