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    Quote Originally Posted by wyoranch View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but does the Finnish use symbolize the same ideology?
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    Thank you Frank. Time to do some reading.....
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    after a quick read I am amazed at the prevalence of the symbols use and more importantly the original meaning. So it should go back to the use by the Nazis and the association with all the horrific things they did.
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    And on a lighter note....

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Giger View Post
    However, here in the USA we have the most broad legal interpretation of free speech of any place in the world. One could put a Hello Kitty as Hitler on their plane, and apart from some copyright issues it would be perfectly legal.


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    Just masterful!

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    Ron, you have WAY too much time on your hands. Nonetheless, masterful!

    can we see Lt. Giger's plane with Jessica Rabbit nose art?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhemxpc View Post
    ....can we see Lt. Giger's plane with Jessica Rabbit nose art?


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    I have worked at a now defunct Duke Power coal plant that had valves with the swastika embossed on the sides. They were produced and purchased before the Nazi's were the scourge of Europe.
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    I know of a Grunau Baby sailplane for which the restorer simply made two rudders--one with historically accurate swastica, and one plain. He simply changes the rudder to suit the context in which the aircraft is being operated or displayed. Because for something like this, a lot of the issue is context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoKu View Post
    I know of a Grunau Baby sailplane for which the restorer simply made two rudders--one with historically accurate swastica, and one plain. He simply changes the rudder to suit the context in which the aircraft is being operated or displayed. Because for something like this, a lot of the issue is context.
    What's the typical context in which he installs the swastika tail?

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    Interesting situation. Germany did a biopic of Hans Joachim Marseille, their top ace in Africa, during the 1950s. It's called "Der Stern von Afrika" (the Star of Africa). It's available with an English dub on Amazon Prime, or you can see a version with subtitles here:



    It is your classic flying film, of the "I hate sending these kids out to die" and "live like a fighter pilot" ilk. Politics are not a part of the story, though it's there in some of the backgrounds and of course the characters are wearing German uniforms with the swastika badges.

    The movie used Buchons for the Messerschmits. The actual, physical aircraft have swastikas, but the models for the air combat scenes do not. I'm guessing they did the aircraft scenes in Spain, and the model work in Germany. Some good scenes with the actual aircraft (including a Storch), and we've probably seen worse model sequences.

    Still, by modern standards, it's pretty pedestrian.

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