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Thread: How can I get my local EAA Chapter out of bed with the local cops and FAA?

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    I joined the EAA and later an Ultralight club. I never joined an EAA chapter for those negative reason on the or at the edge of the subject mater here. I felt very unwelcome . The great transition to stamping out the Ultra light movement was well near complete.
    Now that I have succeeded in my endeavor , I would still not be accepted in an EAA chapter with any worth or opinion. I do not see any real future for a truly experimental organization . What is really more experimental than a new UL design?
    What fires up the minds of a younger crowed more than a real open to all venue?
    The EAA and there high and mighty attitude, largely fed by regulation and wealth.
    Ultra lights require only to fly within a small set of regulation and are then immune to extensive training or actually any training.This is so distasteful to them.
    Also require no financial elevation. No wonder I felt uncomfortable and unwanted. I had none of this, yet designed and I built and fly. I call that real experimental freedom. And and still many want to stamp out UL . EAA chapters continue to whine about diminishing membership .Its only a matter of time and you to will be gone. And there will be a small group of well to do jet pilots left. Certainly smaller.
    Last edited by Norman Langlois; 09-03-2017 at 09:53 AM.

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    Norm,
    If you could trailer your ultralight seaplane to Oshkosh 2018 it should be welcomed.
    I say "should" because my experience bringing an experimental engine was not entirely welcomed. I persisted and got it through the barricades and so was successful.
    If we are to save affordable basic aviation we must be persistent. Let me know if you have questions.

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    Bill I found much enthusiasm when I brought the plane to the local fly in. Its not that I try to make the point that the venue has changed. The story behind the story I have been met with adversity. There were always some approval. I was attacked by some mostly over the flying. What was the approved of the past was not of the day. I expect I might prevail for the plane but not my views of the abandonment of a much needed avenue to entry level flight for the general public, not just the well to do. Today's living expenses put flying far away in the closet of life. The LSA alternative has not solved that. Instead it has added to the news. With daily crash reports coupled with general aviation I am appalled how many . Ultralights never made much negative news. They may have seemed to be a pain in the A for some and have never been really accepted by the Chapters.

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    Bill I have always wanted to bring the plane to Osh. I had to finish , developing takes a long time when you are alone in the project. I finally have everything right as you know. To bring it to Osh with all the hack and chop visible. What do you think would it be scorned or still revered as a success?
    Because I am frustrated and aging whats the point now?

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    Norm, of course you should bring it to Oshkosh if you can. And camp next to it. Even do a forum about how you designed, built and flew it and learned to fly in it... incredible. I can help with a forum if you want.
    Dont worry about the hack on a prototype, it is expected. Paul McCready was awarded "Engineer of the Century" for all of his crude man powered creations. Paul made it crude on purpose. The crudeness embarrassed the Brits.... but McCready won the British Kremer prize because it was crude and worked. The prototype Rutan Quickie was also crude.
    I doubt your work is crude.

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    Norman Langlois, I second Bill Berson's suggestion. I'd attend a forum and certainly take a look at your machine.

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    If I recall correctly, the EAA charter states EAA is to be an "apolitical" organization.

    Inviting people to the meetings who carry guns and threaten others with fines or imprisonment if they do not comply with them, does not strike me as being particularly apolitical.

    I dont let my kids attend anything where guns are present; I just read too many stories of guns going off by accident because of incompetence and hurting people. It seems to be in the news all the time, about the police of gun enthusiasts shooting others or themselves by accident.

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    Yeah, those things are almost as dangerous as airplanes.
    Measure twice, cut once...
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