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Thread: ADS-B out issue with aerobatics?

  1. #11

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    Just wondering if there are any updates available on the ADS-B/aerobatics issues. This from the article on the IAC website: "IAC will be represented at an FAA/EAA Summit Meeting in Oshkosh on the 7th-8th of February 2017 and will continue to press this issue. More working group meetings are planned in Washington in March at which IAC will also be represented."
    Last edited by Ernie; 04-16-2017 at 10:05 PM.

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    Nothing to report. We did discuss this with FAA again and FAA has promised no enforcement action against ADS-B Out equipped aircraft that perform aerobatics and then show anamolies in the performance reports. As you are no doubt aware, you can get performance reports on the internet now. IAC recommends that after installing the equipment, you make a 30 minute flight or so that is normal -- no aerobatics. Then, download your report and carry it with you in the airplane -- showing your performance is normal.

    What we are lacking at this moment is written, hard-copy FAA policy on this. We only have these verbal assurances. I think their promise of no enforcement action is assuring, but as always, we like it in writing. IAC will continue to work on that.

    Mike Heuer
    President, IAC

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    Thanks for the update. I find it troubling that the FAA won't put the assurance in writing. I would hate to install ADS-B and then have a new requirement added for aerobatic compliance.

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    Hate to bring this up again, but is there anything new? I am ready for ADS-B, but not a hassle. Is there just no hope that the FAA puts something in writing?

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    Ernie,

    We find it frustrating as well that there has been no written guidance on this though promised a long time ago. The bureaucracy is certainly not known for speed. That said, we have an EAA/FAA Recreational Aviation Summit coming up in Oshkosh on 13-14 February which I will be attending. That question is on the agenda -- we sent in our list last week.

    Mike Heuer

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    Thanks Mike,

    good luck!

    Ernie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie View Post
    What gives?
    And another question, does ADSB go back to normal in non-aero flight? Another way to ask that, is the non-compliance only while doing the acro or does it "tumble" $ome $ystem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike M View Post
    And another question, does ADSB go back to normal in non-aero flight? Another way to ask that, is the non-compliance only while doing the acro or does it "tumble" $ome $ystem?
    From our conversation with FAA and looking at the printouts, that is what it shows. It goes back to "green" when in normal flight.

    Mike Heuer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Heuer View Post
    From our conversation with FAA and looking at the printouts, that is what it shows. It goes back to "green" when in normal flight.

    Mike Heuer
    Thank you. Seems this is a non-problem in search of an FAA-approved $olution?

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    The “problem” is just the FAA. The system will send you an error report each time it sees a failure. The FAA says it won’t take any action. So far, it hasn’t been willing to put that in writing. Legally you can’t turn the ADSB out system off.

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