The two discussions here are not unrelated. The VMC club is supposed to discuss issues that primarily affect flying by VFR pilots (pilots flying under VFR, regardless of their ratings.) Now, the question of VMC is highly relevant. VMC and VFR are two different things. The weather can be VMC, but to be legal VFR you have to maintain separation and visibility. We had a YE rally a few months ago where we had to have that discussion among the pilots. Just because it was "scattered" did not mean the pilot could remain VFR. I recommended waiting an hour while the ceilings rose and broke up. One pilot did not quite understand that distinction, and wound up terminating the flight minutes after leaving the pattern, so the plane and passengers could remain legal VFR!