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    EAA Staff Question - ADS-B and the EAA

    Can someone on the EAA Staff give all of us an update on what the EAA is doing with respect to installation of ADS-B OUT equipment in E-AB and E-LSA aircraft. A recent article indicates a builder CANNOT install and be legal after 2020.

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    Here's their press release on that topic.
    http://t.co/LbE696QuIg
    It doesn't say much. Reading between the lines it seems to me that they're asking the FAA bureaucrats to fix their mistakes.

    I certainly wouldn't be spending a penny on ADS-B equipment for any aircraft at this time, even certified ones, until they figure out what they're doing.
    Last edited by PaulDow; 12-30-2014 at 09:34 AM.

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    Was hoping for more than the formal press release.

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    We’re working with the FAA to get this resolved ASAP. It is clear this wasn't intentional on their part, and they appear to be as committed as we are to fixing the problematic language and making sure experimental-category aircraft can meet the letter of the mandate. As soon as we have more updates we will follow up on the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Charpentier View Post
    We’re working with the FAA to get this resolved ASAP. It is clear this wasn't intentional on their part, and they appear to be as committed as we are to fixing the problematic language and making sure experimental-category aircraft can meet the letter of the mandate. As soon as we have more updates we will follow up on the story.
    Please be careful. As is, without an electrical system don't need ADSB or transponder. Don't foul that up, OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Charpentier View Post
    We’re working with the FAA to get this resolved ASAP. It is clear this wasn't intentional on their part, and they appear to be as committed as we are to fixing the problematic language and making sure experimental-category aircraft can meet the letter of the mandate.
    Can you please point out the "problematic language", and what document it's in? It's not clear to me exactly what regulatory document is prohibiting E/AB aircraft from having approved ADSB equipment - as far as I've been able to tell, installing ADSB equipment is no different than installing any other required instrumentation in an E/AB aircraft.

    What am I missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Zeitlin View Post
    Can you please point out the "problematic language", and what document it's in? It's not clear to me exactly what regulatory document is prohibiting E/AB aircraft from having approved ADSB equipment - as far as I've been able to tell, installing ADSB equipment is no different than installing any other required instrumentation in an E/AB aircraft.

    What am I missing?
    I think it is a fig newton of someone's imagination. If I was more cynical, I'd say someone is trying to fabricate a crisis to solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Zeitlin View Post
    Can you please point out the "problematic language", and what document it's in?...
    I probably don't have all the background on this, but I think the hornet's nest got stirred up by a post by J. Mac McClellan's at http://macsblog.com/2014/12/can-you-...now-maybe-not/
    I'm glad he found the potential problem, and brought it up now. Imagine if this was brought up in December, 2019!

    As I understand it, the ADS-B regulation requires TSO or type certificate for the equipment to be operated. Experimentals don't have type certificates, and the equipment can't qualify for a TSO since the manufacturer would have to qualify it for each particular aircraft built since they're all different.
    LSA's also have this problem since there is no TC for them.

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