...and I'm building one!
Hint: the FAA is only concerned with finding a potential passenger should a plane wreck.
The opinions and statements of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.
As for ELT, if you have the old style, 121.5 one, I think you can keep it, unless the plane is sold, am I correct?
And I thought all planes needed an ELT except trainers flown within 50 miles of base?By the way, if you have the old style ELT and it works and the battery is current, I would certainly keep it. While I don't think satelites monitor 121.5 anymore, some search and rescue type planes may still be able to pick this up if you are overdue and they are looking for you. Many people downgrade ELTs and if you are flying in Florida or similar they may not be vital, but I know of many incidents in the west or mountainous areas where they saved people or their absence resulted in losses that might have been avoided.
PLEASE, if you are flying in remote areas make sure to file a flight plan. It is one of the few services that you get free from the govt., and worth its weight in gold if you go down enroute. It could also be an informal one made with a friend or FBO rather than an FAA one, as long as someone knows your schedule and where to send searchers if you are overdue.
As for the vor check which I think is every 30 days to be current, but only required if flying IFR?
Last edited by Bill Greenwood; 04-21-2013 at 08:15 PM.
None exists nor is required for my aircraft.
I have an equipment list with empty weight and the limitations from the original manufacturer as well as the change in envelope from a couple of STC's that involve flight manual supplements to the nonexistant flight manual, but there is no specific weight and balance paperwork NOR WILL YOU FIND ANY REGULATION THAT STRICTLY REQUIRES W&B PAPERWORK other than those that are included within the prescribed required operating manual or other paperworl. ARROW was always a DUMBASS acronym. THere never was a "W" item nor is there now a second "R".√° The weight and balance information.
What charts?√° Aeronautical charts (for currency).
Wasnt there was a second R for the radio station license back when they were required?
Jim Rice
Wolf River Airport (54M)
Collierville, TN
N4WJ 1994 Van's RV-4 (Flying)
N3368K 1946 Globe GC-1B Swift (Flying)--For Sale
N7155H 1946 Piper J-3C Cub (Flying)
Don't believe so.
Actually, the list of exception to 91.207 is pretty long:
(1) No Longer Applicable....
(2) Aircraft while engaged in scheduled flights by scheduled air carriers;
(3) Aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely within a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight operations began;
(4) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and testing;
(5) New aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to their manufacture, preparation, and delivery;
(6) Aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to the aerial application of chemicals and other substances for agricultural purposes;
(7) Aircraft certificated by the Administrator for research and development purposes;
(8) Aircraft while used for showing compliance with regulations, crew training, exhibition, air racing, or market surveys;
(9) Aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person; and
(10) An aircraft during any period for which the transmitter has been temporarily removed for inspection, repair, modification, or replacement....
Notice that (7) and (8) cover most of the experimental category OTHER than Amateur-Built.
Ron Wanttaja
Biennial, but they don't call it that any more, since some pilots need a flight review annually. 14CFR61.56
Yep, and we still need it internationally including Canada and Mexico.
I consider the W&B data as part of the Ops Lims in my personal airplane, it is a separate page because it has been revised just a few times since the airplane rolled out the factory door in 1957. I was originally taught ARRO for that reason. At work, we are required by the company manual to carry the Weight & Balance to the destination, but that is beyond the scope of this discussion. I'm guessing if you don't have what they want they would just pull good ol' 14CFR91.13 out.
Last edited by Jim Hann; 04-22-2013 at 01:43 AM.
Jim Hann
EAA 276294 Lifetime
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1957 Piper PA-22/20 "Super Pacer"
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Fly Baby/Hevle Classic Tandem
If my memory serves me, ARROW was Air worthiness certificate, Operators manual, Registration, Radio license, and Weight and balance data sheet. That is what they taught and tested us on for the PPl back 20 years ago. Whatever they are calling a flight check these days, I am still required to get one every other year to remain current and the Ramp checker will make sure you are current.
Joe