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    Okay we are getting somewhere.
    So the Gathering event is expensive.
    20% expensive or 30% expensive?
    Does Ford get in kind value for their gift?
    Insurance – okay. I get that. And the umbrella cost is?
    Scholarships – 300K. I believe that most years that only a portion is claimed. And aren’t some of those funds privately sponsored? Or all out of the YE fund?
    Administration costs – 100K a year?
    Printing - $25K Graphic artist?
    Infrastructure – website, video production and ???
    Local Chapter costs – all covered by the chapter
    I am assuming that the YE Chair(s) are compensated. ? $
    How is the Eagle program going to be differently funded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Heffelfinger View Post
    Okay we are getting somewhere.
    So the Gathering event is expensive.
    20% expensive or 30% expensive?
    Does Ford get in kind value for their gift?
    Insurance – okay. I get that. And the umbrella cost is?
    Scholarships – 300K. I believe that most years that only a portion is claimed. And aren’t some of those funds privately sponsored? Or all out of the YE fund?
    Administration costs – 100K a year?
    Printing - $25K Graphic artist?
    Infrastructure – website, video production and ???
    Local Chapter costs – all covered by the chapter
    I am assuming that the YE Chair(s) are compensated. ? $
    How is the Eagle program going to be differently funded?

    So what table were you sitting at durning the gathering?
    Last edited by RV8505; 08-18-2012 at 09:46 PM.

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    Great Question. My assessment listed above was for the whole YE annual program. I do know they do the AirAcademy which is no where near break even.
    I am afraid my my national service stipend for AmeriCorps would not even get me a bidding paddle.

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    There have been lots of comments on other threads about transparency ... Maybe we should take one area at a time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Heffelfinger View Post
    There have been lots of comments on other threads about transparency ... Maybe we should take one area at a time...
    I'm Sorry, I naturally just assumed from your line of questioning that you were involved as a big EAA contributor checking on the whereabouts of your donation.
    Last edited by RV8505; 08-18-2012 at 11:01 PM.

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    RE Rods compensation plan. Truly off topic......... move to another thread.
    Don't hijack my inquiry to finding out the plan for the YE support funds.
    I am a member of EAA and how/where funds are allocated is a legitimate question.
    YE fund raising is a significant effort at all levels of EAA.
    Last edited by Jim Heffelfinger; 08-20-2012 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Heffelfinger View Post
    RE Rods compensation plan. Truly off topic......... move to another thread.
    Done: http://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?...rom-YE-Thread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Heffelfinger View Post
    RE Rods compensation plan. Truly off topic......... move to another thread.
    Don't hijack my inquiry to finding out the plan for the YE support funds.
    I am a member of EAA and how/where funds are allocated is a illegitimate question.
    YE fund raising is a significant effort at all levels of EAA.

    The Gathering net proceeds are used for ALL EAA Youth Education programs including:
    Young Eagles
    Air Academy
    Museum youth programming
    Scholarships –non endowed
    Young Eagle Credits – for Chapter support of YE programs and Air Academy scholarships
    These programs all have Insurance, materials, postage, overhead, staffing, promotion and marketing cost associated with each area.
    Brian O'Lena, EAA Lifetime #645286

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Page View Post
    What does one Eagle or Young Eagle cost EAA?
    Great Question Eric ! That's an easy number to digest but I bet it's a hard number to create. In fact it may be impossible to extract the full cost per YE as there has to be many budget crossovers with in an organization as large as EAA . Brian has posted a number of replies, and I thank him for his efforts, about where the money goes but has not illuminated the $$ per activity. I have no doubt that revenue streams and budgets are on everyone's plate. If Rod is the business guy I think he is, he will be looking at ROI in every budget. Even the "family pet".

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    Well, it's over 3,000 reads and although I got some vague answers to my question much remains "behind the curtain". Perhaps just asking the question and having it read is success enough.
    JIm

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