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    True Ron... In 1908 the Wrights were all...

    True Ron...

    In 1908 the Wrights were all about the business of selling their
    invention... even with a passenger they could have made the historical
    crossing of the English Channel easily before...
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    1906 Santos Dumont's straight line bunny hops...

    1906 Santos Dumont's straight line bunny hops were celebrated as the
    worlds defining moment in art of powered controlled flight... but
    unbeknown to Santos he was laboring in the shadow of the...
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    Quote a famous test pilot... a man who hurled...

    Quote a famous test pilot... a man who hurled into the unknown...

    "Know your systems"

    or say hello to mean old Mr.Gravity...

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    Bill is right about price... I anted up $2,400...

    Bill is right about price... I anted up $2,400 for 30 minutes flight training in the Collins Foundation P51B... 60 minutes was available for $3,400... mercy but they aren't making money on us wannabe...
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    He knew commercial flights are off limits for our...

    He knew commercial flights are off limits for our forces...
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    Right back at you Ron and Ron... Get your NOG...

    Right back at you Ron and Ron... Get your NOG on...
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    New to my collection is this sobering January...

    New to my collection is this sobering January 1941 Popular Aviation article... Mercy, I wonder if Admiral Kimmel was of the same mindset???

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    Thanks you Orville and Wilbur for inventing the...

    Thanks you Orville and Wilbur for inventing the airplane...

    On the day in 1903 the Wright Brothers are credited with inventing 3 axis
    controlled heavier than air powered flight... between 1903...
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    Can I fly it??? I promise not to gone long... ...

    Can I fly it??? I promise not to gone long...

    Lets see a Tesla battery is roughly 1,200 lbs but sports the energy of about 2.5
    gallons of gas... So to equal 50 gallons of aviation fuel I'll need...
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    True... WW2 is a subject we learned not to bring...

    True... WW2 is a subject we learned not to bring up playing WarBirds
    which is a world wide interactive air combat game... you picked a 4
    digit call sign (mine is XLAX) then pick a color... I flew...
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    Bill how about a Aviation Memorabilia thread...

    Bill how about a Aviation Memorabilia thread topic???
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    I also recommend Pacific Air Museum... you'll...

    I also recommend Pacific Air Museum... you'll have fun dog fighting a Zero in their simulator... if you yank and bank hard Gs you'll see streamers off the bad guys wing tip... "come here I won't...
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    Mercy, imagine being assigned one of those death...

    Mercy, imagine being assigned one of those death traps to fly and fight in???

    Oh don't give me a P39
    The one with the engine behind
    It will tumble and roll and dig a big hole
    Oh don't give me...
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    Thanks Bill for starting a remembrance thread... ...

    Thanks Bill for starting a remembrance thread...

    The only thing certain about the future is that it will surprise even
    those who see the furthest into it...

    I offer scans from my Dec 1941 Air...
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    Not only was Curtiss's 1908 June Bug nose wheel...

    Not only was Curtiss's 1908 June Bug nose wheel steerable but also incorporated a shimmy dampener...
    no doubt technology learned from his 1907 136 mph motorcycle experience...

    Quote Ladislao...
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    True... one of the early tricycle equipped flying...

    True... one of the early tricycle equipped flying machines was the 1908 Curtiss June Bug...

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    Wonderful narrative Bill... I'm Italian so cut...

    Wonderful narrative Bill...

    I'm Italian so cut my wrist and it will bleed Ferrari red... the only Fords I like are their Tractors and GT40...

    Ferrari F40 test hop...
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    Ferrari Testarossa...
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    Steven Spielberg's gag filled war story gets my...

    Steven Spielberg's gag filled war story gets my vote... I think none other than legendary Frank Tallman is the real
    P40 pilot played by John Belushi as Wild Bill Kelso...

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    A closer look at those bullet defector plates...

    A closer look at those bullet defector plates from the Epic of Flight...

    In 1915 from an airfield near Dunkirk, French Lieutenant Roland Garros
    took off armed with defector plates that for a time...
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    In 2002 Rare Bear sported a three blade propeller...

    In 2002 Rare Bear sported a three blade propeller off Lockheed P3 Orion attached to Lockheed Constellation hub but
    after back-to-back testing in 2004, a switch was made back to the Aeroproducts...
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    B-17G "Nine-O-Nine" KBDL NTSB Preliminary Report...

    B-17G "Nine-O-Nine" KBDL NTSB Preliminary Report




    https://youtu.be/5YN4QAdji7Y
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    Here is custom spinner to behold with a tight air...

    Here is custom spinner to behold with a tight air gap... 3350 powered RareBear... no cooling problems noted...

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    True Dave... until definite proof is found all...

    True Dave... until definite proof is found all theories are possible even off the wall Alien abduction... but my learned speculation is on #1

    1)Crash and sink theory
    2)Gardner Island theory...
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    What I gather about 1937 is Japans mood was like...

    What I gather about 1937 is Japans mood was like that of a Ninja...
    like don't do anything baka (stupid) to raise US suspicions...

    In 1937 during the months the US searched for Amelia the...
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    After reading a number of books on Amelia Earhart...

    After reading a number of books on Amelia Earhart I favor the crash and
    sink theory... I believe Amelia and Fred ran out of fuel searching for
    Howland Island and ditched at sea... Ballard is the...
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