Trying to be clear, not a complainer
Hal, I'm struggling with how this forum app handles responding to responses to quotes so forgive the boldface - I'm not shouting, just trying to make it easier to see the authorship.
Howard
While you can print your personal itinerary, there is no way to print all of the thousands of events in the calendar. This isn't something we considered to be a reasonable user scenario. Anyone who wants a hard copy can get one for free in our Visitors Guide or in the daily AirVenture Today newspaper.
I am with you on this, but Jack was trying to see where there might be an opening for an additional presentation and the existing access method made that extremely difficult. Generating a PDF might have solved the problem (if one accepts that it is a problem:).) I could not find a way to search for all presentations in a given Forum location, for example. Maybe I was just not clever enough, but see the next item.
I can't reproduce this problem - the searches work properly for me, except when searching for "propellors" - the search doesn't support alternative spellings, and our style guide dictates that we use the common and accepted "propeller." Otherwise, as I said, the searches you suggested are working fine for me.
I am OK with not supporting wrong spelling. I do think you need to look at how "advanced search" works. I don't think that it is doing what most people would expect. It does not find anything within 100 miles of KOSH or OSH with keyword "prop" or "Norris" or "norris" (different tries, not complex syntax) but it does find events if you leave the keyword blank. Actually, I was trying to filter the search for AirVenture, not the rest of the world.
This isn't true. The app draws from the exact same database as the web. The only difference is that the app stores the data offline (which is a must have requirement on the convention grounds) so it is only as current as the most recent update - we're planning on pushing updates frequently over the next couple of weeks, then just as needed during the event, hopefully no more than twice a day to minimize user annoyance with the notifications.
Regarding last year's app with this year's data, if you go to: http://www.eaaapps.org/Default.aspx and click on "forums" you will see that it is not complete. At least it does not appear to be. Even today I'm seeing more information this way than before. The data is either not from the same source or uses significantly different query terms. IMHO. This is the link that was provided earlier in this thread and why I said either have it work right or take it off. It is hidden, but it is still public.
That's exactly what we've done. Personally, I spent more than 10 years in Test Engineering at the largest software company in the world, leading teams, training software testers, authoring best practices, etc. Obviously, we knew that the performance of the itinerary piece wasn't ideal, but, as I said, better something usable now, than to wait until August for something "perfect" (not that there's any such thing in software...) We have the three environments just as you laid out, and only the production environment is visible to the public. I can't imagine why you're implying otherwise.
Hal, I agree with those who are thanking you for your efforts and I respect your experience and competence. I'm sorry if I implied otherwise. I can only tell what is in front of me and like most fallible humans with incomplete information, I sometimes draw incorrect conclusions. You have been candid in stating the situation and that is good enough for me. The appearance of last year's app and the flaws in this year's prompted this.
http://eaaforums.org/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Howard Handelman http://eaaforums.org/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png
Last year's stuff should be deleted if it is not supposed to be there.
I don't understand what you mean by this.
It was about the old app - see above, please. It is not clear to me from your responses if it is even supposed to be there, let alone expected to work right.
Thanks again for the feedback!
Regards,
Hal
One more thing: I struggle to understand the idea of not "formally" releasing something when it is available on the App Store. This is a language issue, not an IT one.
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