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ChrisPilot
10-26-2014, 02:40 AM
Hi,

The sequence drawing program on Openaero.net checks sequences for a number of rules including CIVA, French, British, German etc, but seems to be lacking the IAC rules. From the developers page I can see there is some kind of script file than defines the rules and this can be amended with additional rules. Are there somebody in this community that is working on this?

Openaero is a great tool for generating sequences, (although the site appears too be down at the moment), however I downloaded a zip file for local installation from here: Installation - open-aero - How to install OpenAero sequence ... (https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCQQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcode.google.com%2Fp%2Fopen-aero%2Fwiki%2FInstallation&ei=_bJMVLm0CubTygOI9ILIBA&usg=AFQjCNFhN0P1DO3qhWxp_aOdL_NBc0p9cQ&bvm=bv.77880786,d.bGQ)and this runs fine.

Happy flying :)

WLIU
10-26-2014, 05:46 AM
I think that you just volunteered. The OpenAero author has stated that he wants the program to be open source and to have persons in each geography submit updates for their own national features.

Do you still have to manually type in "IAC" to get the IAC logo and forms?

Best of luck,

Wes
N78PS

ChrisPilot
10-30-2014, 11:57 AM
OK, IŽll have a look at this and see if I can figure out the way rules are programmed into this system- IŽll do the Sportsman and Intermediate as these are the most pressing for my need (and also easier rules) . The IAC forms and logo is very easy and intuitive to use, just give it a try at openaero.net (http://www.openaero.net) . IŽll report progress here, but dont expect too much too soon... :)

eagledriver.zoe
11-17-2014, 10:02 AM
I'd like to know how to enlarge the figure elements, for exemple a snap(the triangle is still to small) even when I enlarge the figure with the zoom feature the elements stay too small...thanks!!!

ChrisPilot
12-05-2014, 11:50 AM
I have tried to establish the IAC rules for the 2015 free sequences, and have uploaded the file to the developers of Openaero. Hopefully a new version will soon be out with the IAC rules implemented. Enjoy and fly safely. :)

ChrisPilot
12-28-2014, 06:05 AM
New version with IAC rules available: http://www.openaero.net

WLIU
01-06-2015, 07:27 AM
ChrisPilot, if you are still checking this thread, I will say thanks for following through on the OpenAero update. Since I have just been tapped to be the Chair of the IAC Judges Program, as a fellow volunteer I will lobby that you continue to keep the IAC aspect of OpenAero in sync with IAC. My e-mail is on the IAC web site, so if you have any thoughts or input on the Judges Program, please send me a note.

Happy New Year,

Wes
N78PS

Mike Heuer
02-06-2015, 12:45 PM
Christian, thanks for your work and help with making OpenAero compliant with IAC Rules.

Regards,

Mike Heuer
IAC President

cyav8r
02-16-2015, 07:18 PM
I have tried to establish the IAC rules for the 2015 free sequences, and have uploaded the file to the developers of Openaero. Hopefully a new version will soon be out with the IAC rules implemented. Enjoy and fly safely. :)


Anyone know if the new rules are in Openareo yet?

Mike Heuer
02-17-2015, 08:51 AM
I wrote Ringo Massa on this a couple of weeks ago and he says they are there -- with the exception of Unknown rules, which has little effect on us anyway, since Unknowns come direct from Brian Howard to each of our regional contests.

Mike Heuer
IAC President

WLIU
02-18-2015, 08:34 AM
I will offer the caution that a Sportsman pilot who is using OpenAero to craft his first ever Free Program has discovered that the rules checking/warning function does not appear to be annunciating illegal repetitions of figures. This appears to only be occurring for IAC Sportsman Free Programs. So please use the Rule Book Judges Checklist For Free Programs before you are done composing your flight program.

Best of luck,

Wes
N78PS

ChrisPilot
05-07-2015, 01:19 PM
The issue with the missing checks of repeats in Sportsman Free has now been corrected in the new version that is out. Check it out at www.openaero.net

Fly safely
Chris

WLIU
07-15-2015, 07:11 AM
This note is to identify a problem with Free Programs prepared using the OpenAero software, where a Floating Point is used. OpenAero does not write the required notation correctly. For IAC contests, the rule book specifies in 6.2 that the initials "(FP)" must appear on the Form A where a Floating Point is applied to a figure K. OpenAero omits this.

An unfortunate friend asked me to check his Free Program and I observed this issue. Not a big one but the Free Program is technically non-conforming to the rules. He can hand write the correct notation and since the rest of the program looks OK, the forms can then be signed and dated. But at a contest the Free Program should be rejected as illegal.

If ChrisPilot is up for it, updating OpenAero to provide the correct notation would be very appreciated.

Best of luck,

Wes

ChrisPilot
07-18-2015, 08:56 AM
Hi Wes

I have checked the floating point rule and it appears to work in version 1.5.1.8, running Chrome. The letters FP dues however not appear, but the K value for the figure is shown in brackets. If there is a need to change the form itself, you have to contact the developers, as I just coded the rules-file, which is already a stretch of my computer skills... :)

Fly safely out there

WLIU
07-19-2015, 02:58 PM
Thanks for looking at the problem. IAC rules require that the "FP" appear. Without the "FP", the program is non-compliant and can/should be rejected at IAC contests.

I just enterred this as an issue on the OpenAero.net project.

Wes
N78PS
IAC Rules Committee member

WLIU
07-21-2015, 09:00 AM
To follow up, the github.com/OpenAero issues list reports that the correction has been made as of OpenAero version 1.5.2

Thanks,

Wes
N78PS

WLIU
08-18-2015, 06:29 PM
We have a new OpenAero issue. A US IAC competitor created an Unlimited Free Program and the CIVA positioning K (40) was provided on the Form A by the software rather than the IAC Unlimited positioning K (26). The error slipped by the Judge who checked the flight program (shame!) and made it to a contest where it was spotted. IAC rules state that the incorrectly specified figure on the flight program has its score set to zero. Unhappy competitor.

Please double check all Unlimited Free Programs prepared using OpenAero.

I do not have a Github account so it would be helpful if someone forwarded this issue to the OpenAero project.

See you at the box.

Wes
Chair - IAC Judges Program

DJ Molny
08-19-2015, 10:47 AM
I do not have a Github account so it would be helpful if someone forwarded this issue to the OpenAero project.

Done. https://github.com/OpenAero/main/issues/195

Mike Heuer
08-19-2015, 01:33 PM
Ringo has replied -- as he said at the Github link, there is no IAC Unlimited category selection now, but he will add it later. You have to select CIVA rules to get Unlimited for the time being. However, during the next step, it does by default show "40" as the Positioning K value. But you can change that manually. Also, when printing and saving the Forms, you can select IAC Forms. Then you get what we use here in IAC-sanctioned contests, not the CIVA forms. I am glad Wes brought this up here -- a good reminder that everything has to be carefully checked down to the finest detail. "Devil is in the Details" -- my motto.